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Old 01-11-2017, 03:27 PM   #1
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With 2017 here now and our season over with it is out with the old and in with the new.

First order of business looks to be replacing Sean McDermott who looks to be signing a deal to become the HC of the Bills.
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Window definitely didn't close. Regressed this year, sure, but the state of the NFL isn't that great in terms of dominant teams. We lost 6 games by 3 points or less, so it's not like this team just got boat raced all year. Also dealt with some big time injury issues this year (i.e. OL was decimated). We are still young at key spots on both sides of the ball (QB, WR, DT, LB, DB). Definitely have some obvious flaws to fix (OT, DE). Hopefully the young corners continue to progress because they looked better towards the end of the year. It'll be interesting to see what they do with Stewart. He's hitting the age when RBs typically start going downhill, not to mention the injury history. Have plenty of cap space this year - hopefully Gettleman and Rivera use it to lock up some guys and improve the team. I think this year will end up being a good reality check for Cam and hopefully he comes into 2017 with some fire to get back to the MVP level.
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Window definitely didn't close. Regressed this year, sure, but the state of the NFL isn't that great in terms of dominant teams. We lost 6 games by 3 points or less, so it's not like this team just got boat raced all year. Also dealt with some big time injury issues this year (i.e. OL was decimated). We are still young at key spots on both sides of the ball (QB, WR, DT, LB, DB). Definitely have some obvious flaws to fix (OT, DE). Hopefully the young corners continue to progress because they looked better towards the end of the year. It'll be interesting to see what they do with Stewart. He's hitting the age when RBs typically start going downhill, not to mention the injury history. Have plenty of cap space this year - hopefully Gettleman and Rivera use it to lock up some guys and improve the team. I think this year will end up being a good reality check for Cam and hopefully he comes into 2017 with some fire to get back to the MVP level.
We've got cap space, but we also have to resign Short, which is going to cost us about 18 mil or so alone.

Remmers, Ginn, Whittaker, Johnson, and Addison are all the other key component FAs that we either need to resign or replace. Johnson may retire and I think Addison is going to get a significantly salary bump to where he's not all that wise of a choice to resign. Maybe the same for Whittaker.

The free agent market looks like absolute garbage this year, which isn't good news for teams with obvious holes like us.
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^ HA! Remmers! I hope not. I think he's still walking back from Tampa.
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Old 01-11-2017, 04:43 PM   #6
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^ HA! Remmers! I hope not. I think he's still walking back from Tampa.
The problem is that there aren't really any names that could potentially be on the market that are any better. Unless we want to pay double for Gosder Cherilus.
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Window definitely didn't close. Regressed this year, sure, but the state of the NFL isn't that great in terms of dominant teams. We lost 6 games by 3 points or less, so it's not like this team just got boat raced all year. Also dealt with some big time injury issues this year (i.e. OL was decimated). We are still young at key spots on both sides of the ball (QB, WR, DT, LB, DB). Definitely have some obvious flaws to fix (OT, DE). Hopefully the young corners continue to progress because they looked better towards the end of the year. It'll be interesting to see what they do with Stewart. He's hitting the age when RBs typically start going downhill, not to mention the injury history. Have plenty of cap space this year - hopefully Gettleman and Rivera use it to lock up some guys and improve the team. I think this year will end up being a good reality check for Cam and hopefully he comes into 2017 with some fire to get back to the MVP level.
Bold: yes, lost a bunch of games late, including 3 against the AFCW that could have been victories. But that's largely because our D was terrible in the fourth quarter.

The situation at LT was bad enough, but when Kalil gets hurt, that's nothing but bad for the Panther's chances. Probably the 2nd-most important offensive player behind Cam.
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Are we going to stick with Shula? I think he's good at game planning. We come out the gate strong most of the time. But around the 3rd quarter it's almost like he runs out of plays or something? Then we 3 and out a couple times and the other team comes back.

FWIW, I heard Mick Mixon on local radio up here a week ago. Per RR, they are going to change the offense this offseason. Sounds like we're going to go to more of a short/intermediate game instead of the deep drop backs and shot plays that we usually run. More west coast offense. He said Cam is on board with it and excited. We'll see if this is true or not.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:19 PM   #9
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Are we going to stick with Shula? I think he's good at game planning. We come out the gate strong most of the time. But around the 3rd quarter it's almost like he runs out of plays or something? Then we 3 and out a couple times and the other team comes back.

FWIW, I heard Mick Mixon on local radio up here a week ago. Per RR, they are going to change the offense this offseason. Sounds like we're going to go to more of a short/intermediate game instead of the deep drop backs and shot plays that we usually run. More west coast offense. He said Cam is on board with it and excited. We'll see if this is true or not.
I really hope we tweak the offense a bit. I think it will really do Cam and the entire offense well to make the change.
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Yeah, McDermott to Buffalo is a done thing: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...new-head-coach
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I really hope we tweak the offense a bit. I think it will really do Cam and the entire offense well to make the change.
I hope we tweak the offense as well. However, I hope we don't do a complete overhaul. With all the oline issues this past year, we shouldn't have relied on the deep passing game as much as we tried. But, if we can solidify the oline we have to keep some of the deep game in our arsenal because we do it so well when Cam has time.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:14 AM   #12
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I hope we tweak the offense as well. However, I hope we don't do a complete overhaul. With all the oline issues this past year, we shouldn't have relied on the deep passing game as much as we tried. But, if we can solidify the oline we have to keep some of the deep game in our arsenal because we do it so well when Cam has time.
Need to address the O line early in the draft and also get us a RB. I saw a mock where we get Deonte Foreman out of TX in round 5 or so. He is a bigger back with adequate speed who averaged something like 180 yds per game.
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Need to address the O line early in the draft and also get us a RB. I saw a mock where we get Deonte Foreman out of TX in round 5 or so. He is a bigger back with adequate speed who averaged something like 180 yds per game.
I'm all for a RB late or in free agency. I will be freaking irate if they try to get Fournette in round 1.
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I'm all for a RB late or in free agency. I will be freaking irate if they try to get Fournette in round 1.
So will a lot of fans. That would be about as dumb a decision as I can imagine.

I really can't see Gettleman doing that though as he built the Giants into SB winners by focusing on the trenches.

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Exactly. They can find a back in the later rounds. Speed rushing DE and OL are MUCH MUCH bigger issues.


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