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Old 05-18-2017, 09:32 AM   #61
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Every single time Muschamp offers somebody, they end up getting multiple offers soon thereafter. This is no exception.
That's because all the other schools know that they do a great job evaluating players and if they offer it means they believe he is a good player with upside potential.
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Muschamp said it when he got here. "We Will not be Outworked"


We might not get all these guys we're going after. But it sure is great to see our coaches try and work their tails off. I don't think all these other schools are following our lead as much as we're beating them to the punch. Which is pretty big in recruiting to be the first school to offer.
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Funny how people complained about offering JUCO guys 2-3 months ago and this guy is still reeling in offers from every big school out there
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That's because all the other schools know that they do a great job evaluating players and if they offer it means they believe he is a good player with upside potential.
Exactly right. So why do some still question Muschamp and staff's ability to recruit.

Gerald said he will pick the school that feels right for him without any regard to a school's history or national prominence.
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Exactly right. So why do some still question Muschamp and staff's ability to recruit.

Gerald said he will pick the school that feels right for him without any regard to a school's history or national prominence.
Because some people still focus solely on the star ranking. Muschamp is one of the best evaluators in college football and everyone in football knows it. That's why anyone that Boom offers is OK with me.
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agree. it is interesting how many on here are basically non believers if those players don't have a lot stars after their name.
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:55 PM   #67
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agree. it is interesting how many on here are basically non believers if those players don't have a lot stars after their name.
The star system is so politically driven and quite frankly has become no more than a joke. Our Coaches ability to recruit players that fit their system will be what fields a winner or loser.
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agree. it is interesting how many on here are basically non believers if those players don't have a lot stars after their name.
Not sure it's as much about stars as it's about missing out on guys at the top of our board. They just happen to be very highly rated and going to our immediate rivals.
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Not sure it's as much about stars as it's about missing out on guys at the top of our board. They just happen to be very highly rated and going to our immediate rivals.
Thomas and Belk were unfortunate losses but not completely unexpected. I think some people on here may have taken Champ's "selling ice to an Eskimo comment" too literally. Even he admitted this job has been more of a challenge than he had originally anticipated. This DL class can still be solid with Dorian and a couple others. Win 7 or 8 games this season and the 2019 DL class can be lights out.
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Thomas and Belk were unfortunate losses but not completely unexpected. I think some people on here may have taken Champ's "selling ice to an Eskimo comment" too literally. Even he admitted this job has been more of a challenge than he had originally anticipated. This DL class can still be solid with Dorian and a couple others. Win 7 or 8 games this season and the 2019 DL class can be lights out.
Why wait til 2919? "Just make a bowl game and the 2018 DL class will be lights out" is all heard last season. I'm still waiting to see how that prediction pans out.
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Thomas and Belk were unfortunate losses but not completely unexpected. I think some people on here may have taken Champ's "selling ice to an Eskimo comment" too literally. Even he admitted this job has been more of a challenge than he had originally anticipated. This DL class can still be solid with Dorian and a couple others. Win 7 or 8 games this season and the 2019 DL class can be lights out.
I hear ya. I'm just some what playing devils advocate here. I still have complete faith in the staff. Those guys have a steep uphill battle and deserve time.
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Why wait til 2919? "Just make a bowl game and the 2018 DL class will be lights out" is all heard last season. I'm still waiting to see how that prediction pans out.
Clemson winning the National Championship changed that equation quite a bit. The reality is we've lost 2 top prospects to our instate rival who is coming off of a National Championship. That makes the class lose some of its luster but it's going to be rock solid when all is said and done.
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Why wait til 2919? "Just make a bowl game and the 2018 DL class will be lights out" is all heard last season. I'm still waiting to see how that prediction pans out.
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Clemson winning the National Championship changed that equation quite a bit. The reality is we've lost 2 top prospects to our instate rival who is coming off of a National Championship. That makes the class lose some of its luster but it's going to be rock solid when all is said and done.
What if CU goes 11-2 with a New Year's Day bowl win? Do we have to push it back to 2020 before recruiting takes off? Other schools are still able to kill it at recruiting when their rival is doing well.

Clemson seems to recruit just fine while we were winning games and beating their ass for 5 straight years.
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What if CU goes 11-2 with a New Year's Day bowl win? Do we have to push it back to 2020 before recruiting takes off? Other schools are still able to kill it at recruiting when their rival is doing well.

Clemson seems to recruit just fine while we were winning games and beating their ass for 5 straight years.
Compare the records during that win streak we had against them during our win streak with currently. Year 1: 9-5 w/ACC Division Title. Year 2: 6-7 (only down year) Year 3: 10-4 w/ACC Title Year 4: 11-2 Year 5: 11-2. Do you see a slight difference between what they were doing and what we were doing in the same time frame? Also unfortunately our peak wasn't their peak which makes it even harder to beat them in recruiting right now, their peak back to back ACC Titles, 2 CFP appearances, and 1 National Title. Also one small fact you're missing, we won the state of SC in recruiting literally every year we beat them. Where are XT and Belk from? The state of SC...
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What if CU goes 11-2 with a New Year's Day bowl win? Do we have to push it back to 2020 before recruiting takes off? Other schools are still able to kill it at recruiting when their rival is doing well.

Clemson seems to recruit just fine while we were winning games and beating their ass for 5 straight years.
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Compare the records during that win streak we had against them during our win streak with currently. Year 1: 9-5 w/ACC Division Title. Year 2: 6-7 (only down year) Year 3: 10-4 w/ACC Title Year 4: 11-2 Year 5: 11-2. Do you see a slight difference between what they were doing and what we were doing in the same time frame? Also unfortunately our peak wasn't their peak which makes it even harder to beat them in recruiting right now, their peak back to back ACC Titles, 2 CFP appearances, and 1 National Title. Also one small fact you're missing, we won the state of SC in recruiting literally every year we beat them. Where are XT and Belk from? The state of SC...
This too. But we'll get ours. Think back to when Frank took over the basketball program. Same thing.
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Compare the records during that win streak we had against them during our win streak with currently. Year 1: 9-5 w/ACC Division Title. Year 2: 6-7 (only down year) Year 3: 10-4 w/ACC Title Year 4: 11-2 Year 5: 11-2. Do you see a slight difference between what they were doing and what we were doing in the same time frame? Also unfortunately our peak wasn't their peak which makes it even harder to beat them in recruiting right now, their peak back to back ACC Titles, 2 CFP appearances, and 1 National Title. Also one small fact you're missing, we won the state of SC in recruiting literally every year we beat them. Where are XT and Belk from? The state of SC...

Great. Go out of state and load up on guys from GA, FL and NC.
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This too. But we'll get ours. Think back to when Frank took over the basketball program. Same thing.
I completely agree, I'm just pointing out why that argument is just bad. I think Muschamp has us on the right track and will end up being the right guy to lead us back, but it's going to take time.
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Great. Go out of state and load up on guys from GA, FL and NC.
We're in it for a number of players out of those states. We didn't have many commitments until we went into camp season last year under Muschamp either, it's kind of how he operates. Camp season kicks off in mid to late June.
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