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Old 11-13-2017, 04:34 PM   #21
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The play was incomplete. I think it could have been a boo for maybe pass interference. We ran the same play twice, so I was arguing that point and assumed everyone else was too haha
This was my take
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:40 PM   #22
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Agree with almost all of the above but I remember wanting better play calling when we missed 4th and 1. An outside run wod have been better than the inside run we called but, hey, we won and looked very good most of the afternoon so I am ok with it...

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Looked like to me we ran the same play on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1. I hope to see some variety because the whole stadium knows we will hand it to Denson and hope for the best. But I trust Champ and Roper and there is one thing I have noticed is the play calls change week to week when things didnt work. I want to see Denson truck some Tigers.

BTW, not sure if anyone noticed but it looked like to me the line judge on the gator side of the field was continually marking us a half yard back on EVERY.SINGLE.PLAY. that was his mark. Not sure if anyone else noticed.
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Watching Alabama this week I am sure their fans were wondering about the play calling and why the offense couldn't get going. I am not defending Rope because I think he has room for improvement but sometimes it is just what the other team is allowing you to do.
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I am pretty sure the boos were for the missed pass interference as well. I heard the announcer and thought he did not know what the hell he was talking about. A-A-Ron was hard for me to listen to during that broadcast.
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They would have been blown out if Jake didn't throw 3 picks...
True. Jake had a bad game but I won't criticize him too much. If he were to get hurt this year we are back to being a 3 win team. Overall, this season has been great success. I am just disappointed we didn't see much improvement in the offense this year. I hope in 1 year we are not saying the same thing...
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Just maybe this was Jakes bad game this year
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Just maybe this was Jakes bad game this year
Hey he hasn't had his best game of the year yet imo... maybe that can happen in 2 weeks.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:03 PM   #28
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AJ Turner by a good margin. Denson played well, but AJ was superb. Second for me would be Hurst. Then a few honorable mentions like Kinlaw, Ortre, and Denson.
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:39 PM   #29
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Boos were for the bad spot and pass interference. The announcers showed their ignorance on that one. The PI was pretty obvious but the announcers totally ignored it.

As for Cack's point about play calling....we keep screaming about breaking the runs outside. We did that and had success against UF.

But we got stopped on 4th Down when Mon Denson (or Monson, as Todd called him on the First TD run) broke it outside and ran into two defenders. If he had stayed inside, he would not have gotten much more than a yard - but that was all he needed. The O Line did enough to get the First Down, Mon just had to follow the blocks.
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Ace Hindsight was 20/20 on that one. I thought the same thing until it replayed. The two defenders did a good job following him even when he bounced it. He was also moving faster than Hurst on the way to the line.
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Well if you take out the 3 picks, this may have been his best game yet. Wish we'd run him at the start of the game...might settle him down.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:55 PM   #32
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Well if you take out the 3 picks, this may have been his best game yet. Wish we'd run him at the start of the game...might settle him down.
They've got to figure something out. If Bentley could perform in the 1st quarter like he does in the rest of the game, we'd be sitting with a few more wins.

I like stats and don't feel like hearing the complaints, but look at these:

1st quarter, 46% completion with 2 TD and 3 INT; 2nd quarter 73% 6 TD and 2 INT. He's got a qb rating of 93 the first quarter and then 167, 148, 115. To put that is perspective, the rating for the 2nd quarter is Baker Mayfield, Mason Rudolph levels. The first quarter is so low it's not even in the top 100 passers.

I'm not a big fan of Roper for various reasons, but the fact is we've been much better since the break. AJ Turner continues to be the best player I cuss the most. I hope with the emergence of Mon Denson, some of these 3rd and shorts will get easier for us.

But, heading into the season, the offense wasn't a concern; it was the defensive line. And since week 1 they've been playing above and beyond expectations. And like you've said, it's not just the seniors but the youth is developing during the year as well.
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Well if you take out the 3 picks, this may have been his best game yet. Wish we'd run him at the start of the game...might settle him down.
This is what I have been saying too. Even try a roll-out or something
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:11 PM   #34
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This is what I have been saying too. Even try a roll-out or something
My broken record: Run Jake more and run outside more. Please do some option plays or even a quick pitch. Stretch the field horizontally...we have some speed at RB.

Look at the 2nd & 3rd plays in this clip. We beat the taters with this in '09. Eric Wolford was here then. If Garcia and Shaw could run this, so can Jake. Jake ain't slow.

Sorry Cack about derailing your thread.

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Well if you take out the 3 picks, this may have been his best game yet. Wish we'd run him at the start of the game...might settle him down.
He had a rushing TD in the 1st quarter ... how much earlier do we need to run him?
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He had a rushing TD in the 1st quarter ... how much earlier do we need to run him?
Usually when you say that it means one of the first plays of the game. The thought is with all the adrenaline it helps some QB's settle into the game
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He had a rushing TD in the 1st quarter ... how much earlier do we need to run him?
I would like to see at least three rushing TD's by SC against Clemson, prior to the completion of 2001.
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He had a rushing TD in the 1st quarter ...
And he threw an INT on the next play he was in on. I take it back.
But yea as MB commented...it settles them down to run and get knocked around a little. Plus he's yet to run a zone read that I've seen where he didn't get good ydg.
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And he threw an INT on the next play he was in on. I take it back.
But yea as MB commented...it settles them down to run and get knocked around a little. Plus he's yet to run a zone read that I've seen where he didn't get good ydg.


Yeah, that only works if they come out looking like world beaters afterwards. I get what you're saying, and I've heard it a ton. Usually it's talked about in big game situations and not on an every Saturday situation. With Jake, I don't think it's nerves or needing to get hit to calm down. I think he just makes a bad decision every now and then.

I see Jake Bentley as a Brett Favre type of player. He'll make a beautiful pass that nobody should ever make ... then will throw one that you're scratching your head for 3 days about.

The zone reads are successful because he doesn't pull it out every single time. I agree that I think when he holds on to one early in a game and forces the D to back off a lot earlier, but it's what he sees in the moment or what he's told to do.
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:With Jake, I don't think it's nerves or needing to get hit to calm down. I think he just makes a bad decision every now and then.
Dunno....his 1st qtr passing % is bad. Idea: run him the 1st qtr, then pass the rest!
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We seldom run it. The DE comes unblocked on the zone-read. We usually block the DE with our TE or pulling guard.
Both of these might be the same play.

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