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Old 12-07-2017, 07:46 AM   #1601
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I think most of us can agree on that. Unfortunately I don't think he'd stay for more than a season or two. Seems to like to move a lot.
This is certainly conjecture, but if we get an OC who turns us around in short order (which I believe to be likely) then you'd have to imagine the OC will be a hot coaching commodity, hailed as "the man who finally created an offense for Will Muschamp." I can see the tenure being quite short unless we luck into a Venables type.

While some OCs may shy away from Muschamp, I also feel it's a great opportunity for one who is confident. Other than UGA, the East is down or in flux. Many of the pieces are in place at USC. The offensive line shows promise. A talented QB is on the roster with another on the way. Very good WRs and TEs. Pretty good RB stable.

Personally, I'd like to see what Brian Wright from Toledo could do with us.
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Personally, I'd like to see what Brian Wright from Toledo could do with us.
Oh man, Brian Wright of Toledo would be a GRAND SLAM HOME RUN hire. I think he is the BEST Offensive Coordinator in the nation.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:10 AM   #1603
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Didn't know it was a prerequisite to be spot on with inside information. But sure. What I have related is this:

If Roper takes the Rice job, then we'll never know for certain what Muschamp's real feeling were. Some suggested he's allowing Roper to get the job and people I know on the inside are saying that's bogus. Muschamp is more upset right now that he's not in 100% recruiting mode unlike Spurrier in the past. He wants all of his pawns out fighting. Roper is a distraction because there is some level of interest from Rice.

I maintained (and still do) that Roper is not the first target for Rice. I don't think he will get the job despite what some on here are sharing as supposed news from Rice people. Tracking flights, etc.

So the only way I actually could be proven wrong is if Rice does not hire Roper and Roper gets fired as some have suggested will happen and I say will not happen.

So yea, sure. If Rice doesn't hire Roper and if Roper is then fired by Muschamp, I'll stop posting if that is the consensus of the posters on this messageboard.

I thought this was a place for rational sharing of content. I haven't trashed anyone. I have simply shared insight that I am getting from someone who actually sees Roper, Muschamp and most team members on a daily basis.

I think Muschamp runs a tight ship and unlike Tennessee who screwed up royally by airing all of the dirty laundry, Muschamp and Tanner know how to keep things in their inner circle.

So despite what I am sharing and what others are as well - we could all be way wrong. All I know is that I have been blessed to support the University somewhat handsomely over the years and that support has afforded me just a little contact with people who see and talk with the staff and their families regularly. They work with and speak with their kids, wives, husbands and etc.

All I am sharing is that if Roper is being forced out and being asked or recommended to find a job, he and his wife don't know about it. If anyone on the staff knows about it then they are not sharing that either. Just the opposite. They are saying that they've heard nothing at all.

So either Muschamp is the most intimidating man to ever hold a head coaching position or these people are just loyal to a fault or they simply have not heard anything because nothing of the sort has been going on.

Muschamp is a no-nonsense, no reason to talk about stuff that isn't happening so that is why he has addressed the media with "sure" and "that's the plan" when asked about Roper being the OC.

Now it is possible that Roper has talked with Muschamp about his desire to be the Rice head coach and Muschamp is simply allowing him the courtesy that Roper deserves to explore that. Muschamp may or may not be happy about it, but from the input I have heard (mostly the chirping of crickets), Roper has no clue about Muschamp asking him to find employment to save face or protect recruiting.

For all those that want to think otherwise, gracious that is your right. But from what I'm hearing Rice wants a Stanford connection or another proven coach. Roper, if hired would only happen because the other two couldn't come to terms. Rice fans don't have the clout that Tennessee fans displayed to create a social media uproar, but I don't think the average Rice fan cares much about anything but baseball.

Roper would be "acceptable" but not their choice.

Rice will bring all of this to a close the moment that make their hire. If it's Roper, then we'll never know unless Muschamp calls a press conference to share that he asked Roper to find a job. I don't think he operates that way so only a chosen few would ever know.

If Roper does not get that job, we'll get an answer right after the bowl game as to whether I had accurate information or not. I stand by the fact that Roper will be the OC for the bowl game and the 2018 season.

If we don't improve, Muschamp will make a new hire.

It doesn't take a Nostradamus to see the logic in this. People who are saying Muschamp is forcing Roper out, don't know Muschamp. (Not after two seasons unless there was a lot of disagreement among the staff and I have heard nothing related to that.)
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Read much? Where have you been? Feel free to read 10-15 pages back. I usually drink my “crown” though.

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God I hope not. We handled them in game one
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:40 AM   #1606
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I wish there was a clear cut choice and that we could all look into the future and see that our next OC was awesome. Muschamp does as well.

Unfortunately we can all speculate but we’ll have to hope muschamp chooses great and the results are as well.
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God I hope not. We handled them in game one
Not really. They had nearly double the yardage we had. Deebo' s ridiculous day won us that game.
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:01 AM   #1608
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We will probably end up with a non proven Roper type OC.
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:28 AM   #1609
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Boom already went the same route with Brent Pease, former Boise State OC, and that was the hire that cost him his job at UF. Two years of nothing on Offense.

Drinkwitz had some success at NC State but a large part of their improvement was that he brought a veteran QB (Finley) with him and inherited two talented athletes, Jaylen Samuels and Nyheim Hines. It remains to be seen how good he is without Finley and his two all-purpose guys - Finley and Samuels are Seniors, Hines is a Junior.

The Boise State Offense works against their opponents because they typically have better athletes. As a result, their OCs are in high demand.

In the ACC, the same schemes do not work as well because the Ds are better, and that is even more true in the SEC. I expect that he will improve our yardage some, but we will not score a lot more - his type of Offense has trouble in the Red Zone.

And he is not the wide-open fast attack guy that some people are wanting.
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Yeah, this. People keep talking about our "scheme" and "system" and I honestly have no idea what they were for the past two years.
The word "awkward" comes to mind.
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I'd like to know: Was this a Muschamp decision or a Tanner decision? Unless Muschamp is a liar, I think he was honest in his intentions when he said Roper was the OC and would be the OC for the bowl game. He defended Roper all year.
It seems that Tanner may have made this decision.

Can anyone confirm or deny?
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A&M’s perspective on Muschamp and Roper is funny. Funny coming from a school that lost its coach and only had 7 wins.
https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/2914291
People outside of the USC nation see this pretty much the same way as a lot of us do.
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I'd like to know: Was this a Muschamp decision or a Tanner decision? Unless Muschamp is a liar, I think he was honest in his intentions when he said Roper was the OC and would be the OC for the bowl game. He defended Roper all year.
It seems that Tanner may have made this decision.

Can anyone confirm or deny?
If Tanner forced his hand, UF all over again
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Unless Muschamp is a liar, I think he was honest in his intentions when he said Roper was the OC and would be the OC for the bowl game.
Not sure it matters, although it was likely a joint decision considering the $$ involved.

Things change, especially after the last game.
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Yea, I just feel like it's too much of a coincidence that none of his OC's are working out to this point. What is the common denominator? He is going to have to go hands-off of play calling, philosophy, tempo for it to work, imo.
People are reading too much into his past hires.

He inherited a fairly dysfunctional offense from Urban, with a team full of thugs that had to be weeded out.

Weis wasn’t his pick, Fat Cholly was given to him as OC.

Pease actually came from a high scoring team at Boise, he simply fell flat on his face when he left that program.

Roper has a great offensive mind, very much like Champ has a great defensive mind. I believe the big issue is Champ can relate defense to his players, Roper may have difficulty relating offense.

IMHO that’s one reason he stayed up in the box and used Symmes as a “go between” to the QB.

All season long the plays were there...the players didn’t execute.
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All season long the plays were there...the players didn’t execute.
Not in the run game.

We were too easy to defend even if the players "executed".

We left defenders unblocked or unaccounted for.

Our run game was overrun with speed against better teams. All the opposing LBs had to do was watch and charge on those power run plays.

There are smarter ways to run an offense.

And the main player who struggled was coached by our former OC, who also made a mess out of his QB when at UF.

Will hired the wrong guy. This is all on Will.
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Muschamp has apparently talked to both Drinkwitz and Werner.
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