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Old 12-03-2018, 02:56 PM   #41
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I scratch my head sometimes. Chris and Maik I understand, but much like Lele Grissett in a discussion going on in another thread, Hassani ain't in the Top 10 (or maybe Top 20) of our various problems right now. Here are some of his stats at this point:

Points: 11.1 / gm (2nd on team)
Shooting %: 47.2% (2nd on team, after Maik of all people)
3 pt shooting: 43.8% (1st on team, with 14 made 3's)
FTs: 77.8% (2nd on team of those who have shot > 10)
Rebounds: 4.7 / gm (4th on team)
Assists: 14 (2nd on team)
Turnovers: 10 (16 fewer than AJ)
Min. / game: 29.0 (1st on team) with only 14 pf's.

He's also playing better defense and is often paired up on the other team's best guard. Hassani regularly gets a bad rap on CT, but he has been one of the few fairly consistent guys that we've had this year, as you would hope for out of a senior.
Gravett has had a good season. He's not the problem. Kotsar is doing as good or slightly better in almost every statistical category than last year. Kotsar has a lot of room for improvement but he's playing about like he did last year. He hasn't gotten worse.Silva is not the player he was last year. Defense and Silva has been the problem. This is probably the worst defensive team I've seen from Frank Martin.
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I scratch my head sometimes. Chris and Maik I understand, but much like Lele Grissett in a discussion going on in another thread, Hassani ain't in the Top 10 (or maybe Top 20) of our various problems right now. Here are some of his stats at this point:

Points: 11.1 / gm (2nd on team)
Shooting %: 47.2% (2nd on team, after Maik of all people)
3 pt shooting: 43.8% (1st on team, with 14 made 3's)
FTs: 77.8% (2nd on team of those who have shot > 10)
Rebounds: 4.7 / gm (4th on team)
Assists: 14 (2nd on team)
Turnovers: 10 (16 fewer than AJ)
Min. / game: 29.0 (1st on team) with only 14 pf's.

He's also playing better defense and is often paired up on the other team's best guard. Hassani regularly gets a bad rap on CT, but he has been one of the few fairly consistent guys that we've had this year, as you would hope for out of a senior.
We need him to be more consistent. His stats are padded by the last game. For that matter, Silva is averaging in double figures at 10.1. You can't say he is the problem and not include Gravett given only 1 ppg separates the two. Scoring wise Kotsar needs to up his production. Ideally, Kotsar should be around 10 ppg and 10 rpg and Silva should be up around 14 or 15 ppg and 10 rpg. Gravett should be the leading scorer or close to it.
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Without Minaya we have 8 guys contributing. That includes Campbell and Moss who have the fewest minutes of those who have been in the regular rotation. Cudd and Frink have limited minutes because Cudd can't play at this level and Frink has been injured. We absolutely need Frink to provide some minutes and get Cousinard qualified to play.
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2 good years, one maybe could have slid into the tourney, but some bad losses killed it. all the other years are just not good. PJ is his one blue chip recruit while being here, Sin was steered here and turned into a good player.

i think where fans are angry is not with his coaching. He is a great x's and o's coach. Its that its year 7 and you dont have the players to compete yet? your team is still young? your seniors arent responding to you.

if you think the people questioning frank are closed minded, youre wrong. we are questioning things. we expect better.
To be completely fair you can toss out the first 3 years of Frank's time here. Did you not see the train wreck he inherited? He won 25 games in year 4 and no doubt should have been in the playoffs. 26 wins and FF in year 5, 17-16 in year 6 which was very good considering he lost both PGs. Year 7 he has the best class of newcomers since he has been here but has had a bunch of injuries starting back in pre-season. He definitely has the players to compete if all were available and healthy and next year looks even better,
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We need him to be more consistent. His stats are padded by the last game. For that matter, Silva is averaging in double figures at 10.1. You can't say he is the problem and not include Gravett given only 1 ppg separates the two. Scoring wise Kotsar needs to up his production. Ideally, Kotsar should be around 10 ppg and 10 rpg and Silva should be up around 14 or 15 ppg and 10 rpg. Gravett should be the leading scorer or close to it.
Gravett has had one bad game and that was against George Washington. Gravett is doing much better than last year and Silva is way down. Why should Gravett be the leading scorer? He only averaged 7.4 last year.
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Didn't Sindarius have injuries early in his career?

We need Lawson to play well because we have no one else. Silva and Kotsar (and Gravett for the most part) are MIA.
MIA??? Have you even seen Gravett play this year? It appears you have not. If so you would have seen a much better offensive player who has put up good numbers and has looked very good on offense except for one game. His defense has been very good.

Silva suffered a shoulder injury in pre-season. Have you ever played sports at all? Try playing any sport with a bad shoulder injury and see how it affects you.

I do agree with you on Kotsar but his biggest weakness is very fixable. If he can just learn to make simple layups he can really help us. He has had this problem since he came here.
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Gravett has had a good season. He's not the problem. Kotsar is doing as good or slightly better in almost every statistical category than last year. Kotsar has a lot of room for improvement but he's playing about like he did last year. He hasn't gotten worse.Silva is not the player he was last year. Defense and Silva has been the problem. This is probably the worst defensive team I've seen from Frank Martin.

The defense has really only been terrible the last two times out without Minaya. But it has been indeed been terrible for those two games.

If Silva would re-engage and stay on the floor it would make a dramatic difference. Across the board.
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We need him to be more consistent. His stats are padded by the last game. For that matter, Silva is averaging in double figures at 10.1. You can't say he is the problem and not include Gravett given only 1 ppg separates the two. Scoring wise Kotsar needs to up his production. Ideally, Kotsar should be around 10 ppg and 10 rpg and Silva should be up around 14 or 15 ppg and 10 rpg. Gravett should be the leading scorer or close to it.
silva's scoring average is down 4 pts from last year while gravett's is up 4 pts along with much improved efficiency. he's capable of scoring a little more per game but his best role for this team is probably as the 6th man. if we start him then we're too small on the perimeter and we lack shooting off the bench.
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This class is ranked 46th, so if it really is Frankís best class, thatís more of an indictment than an accomplishment.

(Yes, I know recruiting rankings only matter when they favor your program. When they donít favor your program, they are purely for entertainment value.)
No, much more of an accomplishment. Because he has scouted and found players that are MUCH better than their recruiting rankings - they are proving it on the court. And remember that grad transfers are not factored in. Campbell has not been a huge success so far, but he was hurt preseason. Jair Bolden is sitting out and he does not count, but I think he wil be very good.

For context, here is a link to, far and away, the lowest ranked football recruiting class under either Spurrier or Muschamp, the 34th ranked 2010 class:

https://247sports.com/college/south-...tball/Commits/

That group is comparable to this year's 46th ranked basketball class. Spurrier should have been fired for bringing in that sorry bunch of under-performers! That same group was re-evaluated when they had finished playing and moved up to #2 - the real shocker is that they were not #1.
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No, much more of an accomplishment. Because he has scouted and found players that are MUCH better than their recruiting rankings - they are proving it on the court. And remember that grad transfers are not factored in. Campbell has not been a huge success so far, but he was hurt preseason. Jair Bolden is sitting out and he does not count, but I think he wil be very good.

For context, here is a link to, far and away, the lowest ranked football recruiting class under either Spurrier or Muschamp, the 34th ranked 2010 class:

https://247sports.com/college/south-...tball/Commits/

That group is comparable to this year's 46th ranked basketball class. Spurrier should have been fired for bringing in that sorry bunch of under-performers! That same group was re-evaluated when they had finished playing and moved up to #2 - the real shocker is that they were not #1.
Proving it how, exactly? By losing to Augusta? Losing to Stony Brook? Getting curbstomped by Wofford? Squeaking by Coastal?
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No, much more of an accomplishment. Because he has scouted and found players that are MUCH better than their recruiting rankings - they are proving it on the court.



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Proving it how, exactly? By losing to Augusta? Losing to Stony Brook? Getting curbstomped by Wofford? Squeaking by Coastal?
Proving it by leading us to four wins with very little help from upperclassmen, and by contributing points, assists and rebounds.

Lawson easily leads in points and assists - not bad for a true Freshman. Bryant is averaging more points and rebounds per minute than either Kotsar or Silva, albeit in more limited action. Moss and Frink were limited due to injury but will show out more, now that they are healthy.

Look, I get it. But understand that we have good young talent that will continue to get better. Give them a chance - the season is young and we are just getting some players on the court (with Couisnard still on the sidelines).
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Our 4 wins.....


USC Upstate is currently 2-6


Norfolk State is currently 4-6


George Washington is currently 1-7


Coastal is 4-4


Combined record for our 4 opponents that we beat: 11-23


BTW, Frank Martin chose the Melon Squad over the Grape Squad:
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Frank has nothing to worry about. With a 12 million dollar buyout he is either not going anywhere or he is going in style. At least for the next few years.
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Our 4 wins.....


USC Upstate is currently 2-6


Norfolk State is currently 4-6


George Washington is currently 1-7


Coastal is 4-4


Combined record for our 4 opponents that we beat: 11-23


BTW, Frank Martin chose the Melon Squad over the Grape Squad:
Stop the presses! This may get Frank fired! Not the Melon Squad part, but the fact that we beat teams that have an overall LOSING record!!

Those teams are 11-19 outside of our game, not bad but not terrible.

OTOH, we have lost to teams with a combined record of 20-6, or 17-6 outside of our game, which is a little more impressive. Their six losses? Stony Brook slipped up against Holy Cross (a good team, but not a "name" opponent) for their lone loss, but the other five Ls were against Wichita State, Michigan, Kansas, Oklahoma and North Carolina.

And of the three losses, we slept through our game against Stony Brook but still missed a winning three pointer at the end, and had a lead against Providence well into the Second Half.

Chill - you are trying a little too hard on the bashing.
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11-23 or 11-19 (after the spin job) is “not terrible “???

Another example of our expectations being different. You continue to hang in and make excuses for mediocrity.

As for the rest of your post.... I stopped reading. Anyone that says 11-19 isn’t terrible, isn’t worth having a serious discussion with.
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Frink has best hands in paint. Goes to the rack. Will help our offense.
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No, much more of an accomplishment. Because he has scouted and found players that are MUCH better than their recruiting rankings - they are proving it on the court. And remember that grad transfers are not factored in. Campbell has not been a huge success so far, but he was hurt preseason. Jair Bolden is sitting out and he does not count, but I think he wil be very good.

For context, here is a link to, far and away, the lowest ranked football recruiting class under either Spurrier or Muschamp, the 34th ranked 2010 class:

https://247sports.com/college/south-...tball/Commits/

That group is comparable to this year's 46th ranked basketball class. Spurrier should have been fired for bringing in that sorry bunch of under-performers! That same group was re-evaluated when they had finished playing and moved up to #2 - the real shocker is that they were not #1.
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Frink has the potential to be a very good player. He has good mobility inside and he doesn't miss layups.
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Frink has the potential to be a very good player. He has good mobility inside and he doesn't miss layups.
We have not seen much of him yet, but it seems that Frink may be the best on the team at making layups.
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