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Old 04-16-2018, 01:18 PM   #1
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:27 PM   #3
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wth.. this is ridiculous
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his idea or ours? did we think he could step up and be a vital component soon?
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:29 PM   #5
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Our program is a turnstile. Some departures seem encouraged and this one does not. It will be very difficult to develop any kind of chemistry if there is 80% turnover every year. Something doesnít seem right.
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His playing time diminished the last month of the season to the point that in some games he didn't play at all and no meaningful minutes in the other games. That to me was a good indication that he was not likely to be back. He struggled handling the ball,passing and shooting.
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Huge disappointment. No development whatsoever. That's on him IMO.
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Our program is a turnstile. Some departures seem encouraged and this one does not. It will be very difficult to develop any kind of chemistry if there is 80% turnover every year. Something doesnít seem right.
So Frank should stand pat with who he gets regardless of their work ethic and ROI?

I'm much more encouraged by guys leaving that simply won't be what they were supposed to be.

It's better for both parties.
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:44 PM   #9
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It take 3 season to learn Frank's systems but guys don't last more than 2 season.

Seems sub-optimal.
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:45 PM   #10
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By my count we've had 33 HS or prep school players commit since Frank started here. 13 have graduated or are still on the roster. 19 either transferred, were kicked out, or never got in due to academic/legal trouble. 1 guy (Blanton) had a medical hardship.

That means 61% of players who've committed to play for Frank have not completed their SC careers for whatever reason.

Now I may be off by 1 or 2 guys but, regardless, it's staggering. This is a problem that anyone but the most deluded head-in-the-sand types should be able to admit.
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He was a freshman. They hit the wall, thats what they do. If we are showing highly rated recruits the door this early, we are either doing a terrible job of evaluating or a terrible job of developing. Either way, something isnt right.
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By my count we've had 33 HS or prep school players commit since Frank started here. 13 have graduated or are still on the roster. 19 either transferred, were kicked out, or never got in due to academic/legal trouble. 1 guy (Blanton) had a medical hardship.

That means 61% of players who've committed to play for Frank have not completed their SC careers for whatever reason.

Now I may be off by 1 or 2 guys but, regardless, it's staggering. This is a problem that anyone but the most deluded head-in-the-sand types should be able to admit.
There's something wrong with the amount of players not completing their tenure here, regardless of taking each case individually. This is a clear trend and is hamstringing us to have any build on success save a near miraculous final 4 run on the backs of one superstar who stayed and one who couldn't wait to leave.

I don't know what the answer is but Frank needs to find one, otherwise will be talking about that one final 4 run for the rest of our lives.
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He was a freshman. They hit the wall, thats what they do. If we are showing highly rated recruits the door this early, we are either doing a terrible job of evaluating or a terrible job of developing. Either way, something isnt right.
I think it has something to do with not responding to Frank Martin's coaching. Evan Hinson didn't look to good either in most games but he kept playing.
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Every year:

Players A, B, and C get run off.

Fans: "Players A, B, and C were bums! We're replacing them with studs X, Y, and Z!"

The following year:
Players X, Y, and Z get run off.

Fans: "Players X, Y, and Z were bums! We're replacing them with studs 1, 2, and 3!"

The following year:
Players 1, 2, and 3 get run off...
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Rinse. Repeat.
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By my count we've had 33 HS or prep school players commit since Frank started here. 13 have graduated or are still on the roster. 19 either transferred, were kicked out, or never got in due to academic/legal trouble. 1 guy (Blanton) had a medical hardship.

That means 61% of players who've committed to play for Frank have not completed their SC careers for whatever reason.

Now I may be off by 1 or 2 guys but, regardless, it's staggering. This is a problem that anyone but the most deluded head-in-the-sand types should be able to admit.
Wow. Think other programs use this to negatively recruit.....
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Every year:

Players A, B, and C get run off.

Fans: "Players A, B, and C were bums! We're replacing them with studs X, Y, and Z!"

The following year:
Players X, Y, and Z get run off.

Fans: "Players X, Y, and Z were bums! We're replacing them with studs 1, 2, and 3!"

The following year:
Players 1, 2, and 3 get run off...
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Rinse. Repeat.
Perennial "Wait till next year mentality" has infected this athletic department for a long time.
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Frank needs the right guys to succeed in his system. We have seen the results first hand.

I don't have a problem with it. The worst thing that has happened was the bb gun incident and that wasn't at all on the coaches. I have more faith in Frank Martin than any other previous coach at USC, after the other Frank.
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What the hell is going on with this program...seems we almost have more guys leave every year...pretty soon no one is going to want to play here.
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This is getting ridiculous. You can't really achieve if you're rebuilding each year. I'm sure having a horrible retention rate is hurting our recruiting. I hate it when Freshman leave, the potential was there but he just wasn't ready this season. Sometimes I think these guys are just too impatient. Well all the best to him anyway.
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What the hell is going on with this program...seems we almost have more guys leave every year...pretty soon no one is going to want to play here.
You people act like the Final 4 didnít happen. Every CBB program has turnover we have had more because of bad evaluations by the coaching staff but I believe Chuck Martin will help in getting quality players. DB was recruited as a shooting guard but he couldnít shoot.
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