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Old 12-05-2018, 03:25 PM   #1
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Default Oregon Athletics Department put on 2 year's probation

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It would seem they should be hit with "lack of institutional control" if they had such widespread problems across many sports.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:01 PM   #2
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Default Re: Oregon Athletics Department put on 2 year's probation

This is garbage.


UNC makes up decades worth of classes, Miami has known gamblers and strippers versus Oregon having some extra witnessed practices and one athlete's grade changed after they've completed course work, that the professor would've done for other students which I have seen done before at USC for non-athletes.


NCAA is a joke.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:40 PM   #3
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UNC makes up decades worth of classes, Miami has known gamblers and strippers versus Oregon having some extra witnessed practices and one athlete's grade changed after they've completed course work, that the professor would've done for other students which I have seen done before at USC for non-athletes.


NCAA is a joke.


That is spot on.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:39 PM   #4
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ďThe NCAA is so mad at Kentucky theyre going to give Cleveland State another year of probation.Ē
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Well I guess you replace that with North Carolina and Oregon.
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I find the NCAA’s lack of consistency disturbing.
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Default Re: Oregon Athletics Department put on 2 year's probation

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UNC makes up decades worth of classes, Miami has known gamblers and strippers versus Oregon having some extra witnessed practices and one athlete's grade changed after they've completed course work, that the professor would've done for other students which I have seen done before at USC for non-athletes.


NCAA is a joke.
If it’s just probation.
It’s a slap on the wrist.
Miami got a much harsher penalty than that
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Default Re: Oregon Athletics Department put on 2 year's probation

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This is garbage.


UNC makes up decades worth of classes, Miami has known gamblers and strippers versus Oregon having some extra witnessed practices and one athlete's grade changed after they've completed course work, that the professor would've done for other students which I have seen done before at USC for non-athletes.


NCAA is a joke.
Got to agree.
Seems like too stiff a punishment for the crime when looking at other cases where next to nothing was done.

I know the NCAA is hesitant to drop the hammer since it set SMU back decades...but my god, a little consistency ain't too much to ask for.

Oregon has legit beef against this ruling. I don't believe there is any way they can challenge it though.
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Absolutely spot on Batgirl21. Makes the most sense to me
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Default Re: Oregon Athletics Department put on 2 year's probation

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This is garbage.


UNC makes up decades worth of classes, Miami has known gamblers and strippers versus Oregon having some extra witnessed practices and one athlete's grade changed after they've completed course work, that the professor would've done for other students which I have seen done before at USC for non-athletes.


NCAA is a joke.
I hate UNC and think the NCAA uses a double standard for certain programs all the time. That being said, in the case of UNC creating classes, the NCAA was correct. They did not break any violation. Any student could sign up for those classes. The Accreditation Board should be ones punishing UNC and they should take a hit in academic rankings. But again they didnít break NCAA rules.
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:46 PM   #11
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I just assume whoever is in charge at the NCAA didn't get paid enough to overlook Oregon's violations.
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:07 PM   #12
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I hate UNC and think the NCAA uses a double standard for certain programs all the time. That being said, in the case of UNC creating classes, the NCAA was correct. They did not break any violation. Any student could sign up for those classes. The Accreditation Board should be ones punishing UNC and they should take a hit in academic rankings. But again they didnít break NCAA rules.
That's BS. Not any student could sign up for those classes - that never happened in the 18 years of the fake classes, and UNC didn't even make the claim that they could.

What UNC claimed, was that the fake classes were not impermissable benefits for their student-athletes because the students taking the classes were 50/50 student-athlete and non-athletic students. And the NCAA agreed with this, as part of their reasons to not impose penalties. And this was a sham.

There are over 18,000 undergraduate students enrolled at UNC every single year. Some 600 of those are actually student-athletes who participate in athletic programs.

So there are 30 times more regular students that enroll at UNC every single year than there are student-athletes enrolling there. And yet the ratio of students in the fake classes were 1:1 throughout its existence.

So the NCAA had to swallow that 1:30 and 1:1 were the same exact thing. This was a sham class where students didn't have to attend a class, didn't have to study for any coursework, didn't have to pay for any textbooks or other course-specific supplies, and hardly ever had to turn in any work, and they get an easy "A" for their "efforts".

If this was an open-enrollment class for everyone, there wouldn't be enough spots available for any student-athletes, because the regular students would have snapped up all the slots. Every single year.

The other part of the NCAA agreeing with UNC about not penalizing them, was somehow that the NCAA didn't have overwatch jurisdiction in academic practices at member institutions, which is also BS. The NCAA has had jurisdiction over this since its inception....
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:32 PM   #13
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I hate UNC and think the NCAA uses a double standard for certain programs all the time. That being said, in the case of UNC creating classes, the NCAA was correct. They did not break any violation. Any student could sign up for those classes. The Accreditation Board should be ones punishing UNC and they should take a hit in academic rankings. But again they didnít break NCAA rules.
From what I understand, the attendance for the fake classes were approximately 50% athletes to non-athletes (a really large over-representation of a small group when compared to the overall student body). This gave UNC an unfair athletic advantage to other programs in that it allowed them to keep players eligible that otherwise should not have been allowed to play collegiate sports.

And yes, in addition, the Accreditation Agency should have reamed UNC for bogus classes.
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