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Old 05-06-2016, 10:11 AM   #1
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I can't imagine what the kids and their families are going through. Sandusky deserves every bit of his jail time.

However, we're beating a dead horse. It was a terrible and awful series of events that could/should have been handled differently by everyone. It's time to move on from it.
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I don't know, maybe the families want closure by exposing just how bad the situation was.
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Old 05-06-2016, 10:19 AM   #3
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The civil side is still playing out in the courts which could take years.
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I personally believe Paterno was far more involved in what was going on. No one ever mentions the Ray Gricar situation. Plus the governor. Paterno was like a Don Vito figure and Sandusky was just the beginning of the dirty crap going on.
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Anyone with an IQ above 70 knows Paterno had prior knowledge of Sandusky's phychosis...Worked with some PSU alum back in the 90s...They used to share this joke..."Walk into a Happy Valley ice cream parlor and order a Sandusky...They will serve you two scoops of ice cream with the cone on top"...This stuff had been out there for decades before it blew up...The cover up had to go all the way to the top...
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I personally believe Paterno had no involvement. He kicked it up the ladder
to the AD and the school president and expected them to handle it. I don't
see any reason to assume he knew the truth of the information reported to
him. It is so easy to point at Sandusky guilt knowing what we know but when
this happened he was a very well respected person.
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I personally believe Paterno had no involvement. He kicked it up the ladder
to the AD and the school president and expected them to handle it. I don't
see any reason to assume he knew the truth of the information reported to
him. It is so easy to point at Sandusky guilt knowing what we know but when
this happened he was a very well respected person.
Court opinion from a county judge. Full clocked decision at link below if you're interested in context.

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Sandusky was employed by PSU as an Assistant Football Coach and Assistant Professor of Physical Education from 1969 until his retirement in 1999.1 PMA claims Sandusky committed several acts of molestation early in his career at PSU: in 1976, a child allegedly reported to PSU’s Head Football Coach Joseph Paterno, that he (the child) was sexually molested by Sandusky; in 1987, a PSU Assistant Coach is alleged to have witnessed inappropriate contact between Sandusky and a child at a PSU facility; in 1988, another PSU Assistant Coach reportedly witnessed sexual contact between Sandusky and a child; and also in 1988, a child’s report of his molestation by Sandusky was allegedly referred to PSU’s Athletic Director.
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Paterno knew.
He looked past it because that's what they did when he was coming along. In no way it makes it right, but people implying JoPa was not complicit in the Sandusky scandal are living in denial.

Paterno is gone, but if he had taken stronger actions, he almost certain would have prevented further abuse.
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Just think much greater Paterno's legacy would have been if he had done the right thing in 1976.

He would have lost some games, but would have set the example on how to handle this stuff.
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Paterno knew.
He looked past it because that's what they did when he was coming along. In no way it makes it right, but people implying JoPa was not complicit in the Sandusky scandal are living in denial.

Paterno is gone, but if he had taken stronger actions, he almost certain would have prevented further abuse.

Exactly...No matter how much people admired the man, fact is an assistant coach came straight to him after seeing Sandusky naked in the shower with a young boy...No one called the police...No one checked on the well being of the boy...Nor did they notify the boys family...There is no excuse...This insanity that JoePa notified higher ups and trusted them to handle just doesn't past smell test...Paterno was 'The Higher Up' at PSU
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However, we're beating a dead horse....It's time to move on from it.
Not really. Some people are already ready to resurrect monuments to JoPa, since they have convinced themselves that JoPa got a raw deal.

It should be exposed for what it is.
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The victims have already been compensated by the school.

I guess the school had insurance to cover it for lawsuits and it appeared their insurance company balked at paying because the school's officials had prior knowledge that wasn't shared with the insurance company.

It sounds like their policy would have required the school to suspend/terminate Sandusky's employment once PSU's risk officer would have notified them of the allegations made against Sandusky.

It appears Paterno failed to make the administration aware of any allegations on three separate occasions.
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Screw the old crooked joker. He was a slimeball.
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The victims have already been compensated by the school.

I guess the school had insurance to cover it for lawsuits and it appeared their insurance company balked at paying because the school's officials had prior knowledge that wasn't shared with the insurance company.

It sounds like their policy would have required the school to suspend/terminate Sandusky's employment once PSU's risk officer would have notified them of the allegations made against Sandusky.

It appears Paterno failed to make the administration aware of any allegations on three separate occasions.
Ding. Ding. Ding. Tell the man what he's won. These civil suits with a lower threshold for admitted evidence are go a shed light.
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I think all wins should be vacated all the way back to 1976.
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The thing that irks me was the fact is he reported an incident, and nothing happened. As aten said, up and down that whole line, they are all effing garbage, and any still alive should be rotting in prison. Don't pin this on one guy, this is Paterno, as well as any coach that knew, and administration that knew. It seems the more stories coming out, they are trying to scapegoat Paterno as the sole reason this went on. Something like this ticks me off, after the first time Sandusky should of been in prison.
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He should be on death row.
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Sandusky Case Bombshell: Did 6 Penn State Coaches Witness Abuse?


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As many as six assistant coaches at Penn State witnessed "inappropriate behavior" between Jerry Sandusky and boys, stretching as far back as the 1970s, NBC News has learned.

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The information, which comes from court documents and multiple sources with direct knowledge of legal proceedings, raises new questions about how long the abuse went on, why no one stopped it and whether there could be even more victims than previously known.

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But sources told NBC News that one former Penn State assistant coach witnessed an incident in the late 1970s. Three other coaches — who have gone on to work in the NFL and at Division I colleges — allegedly saw inappropriate conduct between Sandusky and boys in the early and mid-1990s.
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That's totally inexcusable. I hope all of this shakes out and those that looked the other way get exposed.
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