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Old 01-29-2018, 08:10 PM   #1
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Seeing our program's steady decline over the past five years I think most of us were glad to see a coaching change. What changes will Mark make to our program? I have followed his remarks and read much about him since he was hired. Here are a few examples of what I have heard or learned:

Mark wants strike thowers. He does not want to give up free passes. We saw far too many walks in recent years, many of them being lead-off walks and these often led to runs. Look for him to bring in very good command pitchers and work to improve control of the ones he inherited.

Chad simply loved the small ball, bunt and playing for one run innings. Mark has said he does not like the bunt and will bunt only when necessary.

As a result I believe our hitting will improve and we will score more runs. If our pitchers can become strike throwers we should give up less runs. I love the changes and believe we have hired a great coach.

Chad had many guys trying to bunt who could not bunt. This often put them in a 2 strike hole and usually led to outs. As much as he loved the bunt one would think we should be a good bunting team but that was not the case. I think our offense will be much more exciting under Mark. I love the change and am excited about the season. The big question is our pitching. With the lack of proven quality pitchers other than Hill, this is going to be a big hill to climb and pitching is the name of the game.
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Chad had many guys trying to bunt who could not bunt. This often put them in a 2 strike hole and usually led to outs. As much as he loved the bunt one would think we should be a good bunting team but that was not the case.
In our two championship seasons, we had great bunting, which led to great success.
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The biggest change to the offensive philosophy will be swinging low to high as opposed to a flat swing. The idea is to hit more balls beyond the infield. More line drives and more doubles. Team will run the bases more aggressively and look to take the extra base. At times this could bite us, but the percentages say you should try more often.
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In our two championship seasons, we had great bunting, which led to great success.
Yeah, but we had a coach who demanded good fundamentals and taught it. Holbrook never got that.
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The biggest change to the offensive philosophy will be swinging low to high as opposed to a flat swing. The idea is to hit more balls beyond the infield. More line drives and more doubles. Team will run the bases more aggressively and look to take the extra base. At times this could bite us, but the percentages say you should try more often.
Rather than low to high, I think it should be described as trying to "drive the ball". This does require a slight upward plane, but its not really low to high. It's great fundamentally. Greater chance of making good contact, enhance body action and reduces wristy swings. FWIW, I was taught that in high school ball.
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In our two championship seasons, we had great bunting, which led to great success.
Because we had this guy named Wingo who could actually bunt.
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Yeah, but we had a coach who demanded good fundamentals and taught it. Holbrook never got that.
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Because we had this guy named Wingo who could actually bunt.
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The mental make up of that team was different as well. There were guys on that team that never gave up and it showed on the field. If they wanted a win, they went out and got it. They didn't believe that it should be handed to them
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Or step in front of a pitch
He did have an uncanny ability to take a low and away pitch right in the middle of his back LOL.
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kingston did say something pretty audacious the other day. he said that this is his last coaching spot. I know he is very confident and sure of himself but the guy also hasnt even coached a game here yet. i liked the statement but then i didnt like it. Seems pretty bold.

Saying that, i believe thats why i think he will be a winner. he will pull no punches with the players and drive them to be successful or they can sit or transfer.

Throw strikes or sit down, make contact or sit down, make clean plays or sit down. kill us on the bases and sit down. be competitive or sit down..etc..

Kingston has very good players, make no mistake about that. If someone isnt producing i gaurantee someone will fill in. he also may put in what we consider 'strange' lineups in order to get the best 9 guys to help us win that particular day. to him losing is no farging option. no excuces allowed.
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kingston did say something pretty audacious the other day. he said that this is his last coaching spot. I know he is very confident and sure of himself but the guy also hasnt even coached a game here yet. i liked the statement but then i didnt like it. Seems pretty bold.

Saying that, i believe thats why i think he will be a winner. he will pull no punches with the players and drive them to be successful or they can sit or transfer.

Throw strikes or sit down, make contact or sit down, make clean plays or sit down. kill us on the bases and sit down. be competitive or sit down..etc..

Kingston has very good players, make no mistake about that. If someone isnt producing i gaurantee someone will fill in. he also may put in what we consider 'strange' lineups in order to get the best 9 guys to help us win that particular day. to him losing is no farging option. no excuces allowed.
Kingston is a sabermetrics type of guy, as opposed to Holbrook, who was as old school as you can get.

If you had the same approach in football as you do in baseball, the single wing would still be used and people would be scoffing at the forward pass. Baseball is the most hidebound, tradition-worshiping sport out there. In most sports, there has to be some sort of logic or percentages to justify doing something. In baseball, it is enough to just say "that is how we have always done it".

The bunting is my pet peeve - no secret there. To me, it is not a question of whether we bunt well or poorly, it is just that we bunt way too much. Because it usually is a lower percentage move.

I think Kingston will do things because it makes sense, percentage-wise. I will do my best to not cringe when we bunt (hopefully occasionally), as long as we are smart about it and do not do it all of the time.

And if we do bunt, it would help to be able to get them down.
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Bunting isn't bad in college, Holbrook timing and predictable nature hurt us, as well as his inability to get players coached up to do it. That and he scrapped other plays like hit and runs, steals etc
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I think a lot of the fans that hate bunting will still hate pretty much any coach, as bunting is a part of college baseball.

Hopefully our new coach will teach them how to bunt AND how to properly run bases......
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kingston did say something pretty audacious the other day. he said that this is his last coaching spot. I know he is very confident and sure of himself but the guy also hasnt even coached a game here yet. i liked the statement but then i didnt like it. Seems pretty bold.

Saying that, i believe thats why i think he will be a winner. he will pull no punches with the players and drive them to be successful or they can sit or transfer.

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Kingston has very good players, make no mistake about that. If someone isnt producing i gaurantee someone will fill in. he also may put in what we consider 'strange' lineups in order to get the best 9 guys to help us win that particular day. to him losing is no farging option. no excuces allowed.
Actually he said he hoped this would be his last coaching stop. I hope so also.

I like the part where he said he will play different line-ups depending on what works best against our opponent. He is very confident in 12 or 13 of our position players. This is good depth if we stay healthy.
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Bunting is situational. Is the person at the plate a 200 or 300 hitter, late or early in the game, opposing pitcher's ERA, do we expect a tight game.
We bunted too much last year because we were not hitting.
The lack of run support placed too much pressure on our pitchers. (Almost every game)
We could get any calls on breaking balls because we threw to many. Why, because...... trying to avoid the big hit. We could not afford to give up any runs.
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Kingston is a sabermetrics type of guy, as opposed to Holbrook, who was as old school as you can get.

If you had the same approach in football as you do in baseball, the single wing would still be used and people would be scoffing at the forward pass. Baseball is the most hidebound, tradition-worshiping sport out there. In most sports, there has to be some sort of logic or percentages to justify doing something. In baseball, it is enough to just say "that is how we have always done it".

The bunting is my pet peeve - no secret there. To me, it is not a question of whether we bunt well or poorly, it is just that we bunt way too much. Because it usually is a lower percentage move.

I think Kingston will do things because it makes sense, percentage-wise. I will do my best to not cringe when we bunt (hopefully occasionally), as long as we are smart about it and do not do it all of the time.

And if we do bunt, it would help to be able to get them down.
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I think a lot of the fans that hate bunting will still hate pretty much any coach, as bunting is a part of college baseball.

Hopefully our new coach will teach them how to bunt AND how to properly run bases......
Frequent bunting as we saw under Chad is old school as it is with many college coaches. I am glad Mark does not subscribe to the old school stuff just as MLB does not. As discussed last year MLB sac bunts were at an all time low and for very good reason. This is a very low percentage play even if the bunt is successful and many times it is not as was the case with us under Chad.

Mark is in the modern world of baseball, not only with not wanting to bunt but with moving players around on defense, even having 3 players on one side of the infield. He is putting players in position to make plays where the hitter puts the ball 70 to 80% of the time.
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In our two championship seasons, we had great bunting, which led to great success.
Difference being we only let the guys who could actually bunt, bunt. Whit Merrifield, Scott Wingo for example.

Holbrook had Pankake and Destino try to bunt.
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I high school I bunted 7 times in a row through two games. I got on base 6 of the 7 times. Just saying if you are good, lay it down. I think the players let it get in their head last year and created that poor bunting circumstance, not Holbrook or the lack of teaching.

I'm glad we have Kingston, he wants players to get on base no matter what. That's what the game is about, creating runners and scoring with decent pitching.
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