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Old 05-14-2018, 06:56 PM   #121
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Actually, Darin Horne got much of the best talent from in state in his recruiting. The problem was the in state talent wasn't very good at the time. SC is a small state and the talent pool is not huge and is sometimes cyclical. We will never win consistently with just in state recruiting. We have to be able to recruit from outside the state to be a consistently good program.
Agree. Go get the best players regardless of location. No matter who the USC coach may be some players have their mind set to go out of state. I get tired of hearing we must get in state players in order to be successful.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:13 PM   #122
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NBA Combine starts in a couple days...thinking we'll have actual info to debate with after the week is over instead of speculation.

I personally think he will stay & play but I also think the only programs who get preferential treatment when it comes to players skating on NCAA rulings are those on the UNC & Duke type payrolls.
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Tough situation for him.

If he has some good workiuts, it woildnt surprise me if he got picked up late. There have been some positive reports on his private workouts.

Even if he’s not drafted, he’ll certainly get picked up as a free agent for the D league. In that scenario, he’d have to decide if he’d rather take the sure thing and make a few grand to play ball or risk sitting the bench here and going 2 full seasons without playing competitively.
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Old 05-15-2018, 02:02 PM   #124
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https://nypost.com/2018/05/11/ncaa-s...from-prospect/

Bowen projected by some at the top of the 2nd round. Dont think the NCAA wants him playing college ball and that is the reason for delay. Any issues they still have with him will be gone when drafted and/or chooses to play pro somewhere. Continued NCAA silence strongly suggests no ruling will EVER be made.

Would have been fun to see him here
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Old 05-15-2018, 02:33 PM   #125
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Bowen projected by some at the top of the 2nd round. Dont think the NCAA wants him playing college ball and that is the reason for delay. Any issues they still have with him will be gone when drafted and/or chooses to play pro somewhere. Continued NCAA silence strongly suggests no ruling will EVER be made.

Would have been fun to see him here
Would make sense and also be a smart move for NCAA. I would not actually be mad if he never plays here. I would like this waiting game to be over with though. And by over, I mean that the gamecocks actually know whether or not he will be able to play for the Gamecocks. I hear December 2018 is the most likely time the NCAA would rule (actually forgot where I heard it so take that with a grain of salt). He would be a great pick up if he is ruled eligible and can start playing a the beginning of the season. I can see it making sense that he risk trying the NBA and end up playing overseas if he doesn't get drafted.

So in summary I hope the NCAA rules him fully eligible tomorrow and he decides to withdraw from the draft and play a season here.
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Bowen projected by some at the top of the 2nd round. Dont think the NCAA wants him playing college ball and that is the reason for delay. Any issues they still have with him will be gone when drafted and/or chooses to play pro somewhere. Continued NCAA silence strongly suggests no ruling will EVER be made.

Would have been fun to see him here
If he’s projected to be drafted, he’s gone. Not that he was ever here.
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:33 PM   #127
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Bowen wants to play some college ball at USC. Frank is optimistic that the NCAA will clear him to play for the Gamecocks. Of course, a big offer from the NBA would have to be considered. We'll know more in a few weeks.
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:52 PM   #128
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Bowen projected by some at the top of the 2nd round. Dont think the NCAA wants him playing college ball and that is the reason for delay. Any issues they still have with him will be gone when drafted and/or chooses to play pro somewhere. Continued NCAA silence strongly suggests no ruling will EVER be made.

Would have been fun to see him here
If he is projected to go 2nd round, it's unlikely he'll be drafted.. There are only 62 picks.. There are about 50-60 players projected to go first round.. Dozier was a projected 1rst founder last year
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:03 PM   #129
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Bowen projected by some at the top of the 2nd round. Dont think the NCAA wants him playing college ball and that is the reason for delay. Any issues they still have with him will be gone when drafted and/or chooses to play pro somewhere. Continued NCAA silence strongly suggests no ruling will EVER be made.

Would have been fun to see him here
That projection is for next year (2019).
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Actually, Darin Horne got much of the best talent from in state in his recruiting. The problem was the in state talent wasn't very good at the time. SC is a small state and the talent pool is not huge and is sometimes cyclical. We will never win consistently with just in state recruiting. We have to be able to recruit from outside the state to be a consistently good program.
The two things were related. Talent being down made it easier to land.

And it sort of depended what time you were talking about.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:24 AM   #131
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Bowen’s attorney tweets to the NCAA. Now this is pressure.

And this is a valid reason for a lawsuit.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:05 AM   #132
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Bowen’s attorney tweets to the NCAA. Now this is pressure.

And this is a valid reason for a lawsuit.
The lawyer is doing what lawyers do, saying things the client probably shouldn't say. Thing is, the NCAA doesn't really have to do anything. Of course they should, but we're talking about a feckless sham of an organization.
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Tanner needs to get off his butt and get the SEC involved tomorrow if he can't step up .. The kid and USC needs to know something one way or the other and we're not talking about something like OJ Simpsons murder trial ..
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The lawyer is doing what lawyers do, saying things the client probably shouldn't say. Thing is, the NCAA doesn't really have to do anything. Of course they should, but we're talking about a feckless sham of an organization.
That’s why the attorney commented about Bowen’s due process, meaning the NCAA is being unreasonably slow in making a determination on Bowen’s situation.
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Tanner needs to get off his butt and get the SEC involved tomorrow if he can't step up .. The kid and USC needs to know something one way or the other and we're not talking about something like OJ Simpsons murder trial ..
Tanner has zero clout in this matter.
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Cam newton was reinstated in what a week so we know they can make a decision quick when needed
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Bowen’s attorney tweets to the NCAA. Now this is pressure.

And this is a valid reason for a lawsuit.

I came into work this morning with my stomach not feeling well. I just took an NCAA and now I'm feeling much better.
Those idiots make their own rules to satisfy their own agenda. SMH
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Tanner needs to get off his butt and get the SEC involved tomorrow if he can't step up .. The kid and USC needs to know something one way or the other and we're not talking about something like OJ Simpsons murder trial ..
With the May 30 deadline, can USC do anything between now and then to speed up the NCAA's ruling on Bowen?

"No, there really isn't," Tanner said. "They've got to do their work and we're on their timeline. So hopefully we'll have the information that will work."
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The lawyer is doing what lawyers do, saying things the client probably shouldn't say. Thing is, the NCAA doesn't really have to do anything. Of course they should, but we're talking about a feckless sham of an organization.
There's the answer. The NCAA is bound to do anything or anyone's timeline, which I think should be addressed. On questions of eligibility, it should be an expectation that a ruling is made in 15 days. This isn't a court of law, no one will go to prison if something is missed. If you can't clearly find evidence in two weeks that a kid took money or whatever, then you either aren't good enough or there's nothing there. Neither of which is a reason to punish the kid.

All that said, the easiest thing to do is nothing which the NCAA will. Bowen will be forced to go to the draft or sit on his hands another year and become more forgotten. 3 months later, if anyone asks, then they'll rule him eligible.
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Cam newton was reinstated in what a week so we know they can make a decision quick when needed
But there was no ongoing and comprehensive FBI/DOJ investigation with criminal indictments in Cam Newton's case. I think that is what complicates this situation.
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