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Old 03-09-2017, 12:23 PM   #201
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Default Re: 2018 MBB Zion Williamson (SC)

I went to the Chick Fil A Classic...both games.

He was by far the most talented and gifted kid on the court. Gray Collegiate could match them with talent (the Felton kid going to UNC looked good!) but they were scared to play Zion straight up. If he got by the first man not one was stepping in the way for a charge or even to help. For whatever reason they decided to play man to man...blow by's the whole game. Not to mention no one wanted to body him up to box out. Bottom line they played like they were scared of him and he did what he wanted.

Against Keenan it was different. They were very physical with him the whole game. Played mostly a zone and when he touched the ball there were at least 2 people around him. He worked for every basket he got and still played a great game. He may have only had 19 points but he also had dbl digit rebounds and nothing came easy.

In college he likely won't be the only threat on a team so the dbl and tpl teams won't be there as much...

For his size, he can shoot pretty adequately and has decent handles. Think Lebron. Take it for what its worth.
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You're more than welcome to search for them if you're this curious. I've never seen AAU season stats posted in any of the basketball recruit threads so I doubt anyone here knows where to find them. You'll probably be able to find a few random games at big events but outside of that I doubt you'll find much.
I already have. People just keep referencing his AAU performance, but nobody seems to know how he's actually done.
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Old 03-09-2017, 12:33 PM   #203
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I already have. People just keep referencing his AAU performance, but nobody seems to know how he's actually done.
There have been articles about him dominating in AAU, as for stats you generally just get the game or two that backs it up. Still it seems to be the consensus from people who cover AAU basketball that he is tearing it up so I'll take their word for it.
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Default Re: 2018 MBB Zion Williamson (SC)

Doesn't look like skinny,white, Christian Schoolers here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_ry7sMqOd8

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There have been articles about him dominating in AAU, as for stats you generally just get the game or two that backs it up. Still it seems to be the consensus from people who cover AAU basketball that he is tearing it up so I'll take their word for it.
Hmmm...good to know. Haven't really been able to find much talking about his AAU play other than his Game Elite performance last summer.
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Doesn't look like skinny,white, Christian Schoolers here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_ry7sMqOd8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I7_-bNXIcs
Yeah, those aren't his high school games.
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Old 03-09-2017, 01:03 PM   #207
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Hmmm...good to know. Haven't really been able to find much talking about his AAU play other than his Game Elite performance last summer.
You have to remember AAU basketball takes a backseat during the school year, specifically when HS basketball is going on. It's mostly a Summer type of deal.
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You have to remember AAU basketball takes a backseat during the school year, specifically when HS basketball is going on. It's mostly a Summer type of deal.
Yes, true. He fared well in 4 games with Game Elite at 23 points. In his NBPA Top 100 camp he average 14.6 points, which is quite down from his game averages, but that makes sense considering the level of competition. Nevertheless, he led in that category and played less than 30 minutes in each game. Not sure how long the games are. Players don't seem to get a lot of looks as he was 52/75 shooting for 9 games.

http://top100camp.com/games/

Will learn a lot from his camps this summer.
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Old 03-09-2017, 04:03 PM   #209
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After watching some video my question is can he shoot. He isn't going to blow by everyone like that in college so he has to have an outside game too.

I'm willing to bet the answer is yes.
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After watching some video my question is can he shoot. He isn't going to blow by everyone like that in college so he has to have an outside game too.

I'm willing to bet the answer is yes.
Looking at some of high school game highlights, he seems pretty comfortable from the behind the arc as he does inside. But, yeah, he's not gonna be getting crazy breakaway jams all the time in college.
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Old 03-12-2017, 07:39 PM   #211
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If we can get past Marquette we get a shot at Duke in all likelihood. Given Zion's top 3 I have a feeling he will be watching closely if that happens.
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:24 AM   #212
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Game is pretty much in his backyard.The fact that we made it to the NCAA is a plus - a win and a match-up with Duke would be even bigger.

It will give us a major recruiting boost, for Zion and any one else that we are going after.
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:48 PM   #213
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Depends on how we play. If we look like we did against Bama, it'll probably be a liability for us with his recruiting. We should probably win against Marquette and at least look competitive against Duke if we want to make an impression.
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Wonder if he is going to the Game Friday night?
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Depends on how we play. If we look like we did against Bama, it'll probably be a liability for us with his recruiting. We should probably win against Marquette and at least look competitive against Duke if we want to make an impression.
History is not on our side is it?

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**Question** for anyone that knows the finer details on NCAA basketball recruiting...

Does the NCAA allow a university to offer a ticket(s) to a recruit for post-season games...like the NCAAs or NIT??

Not talking about a university paying for a recruits lodging or transportation to a post-season event.

Just wondering if a recruit wanted to travel to a post-season game on his dime, could the school recruiting him/her offer a ticket from their block of tickets provided to the university from the NCAA (not the paid seats, just the block of seats used by the school officials/staff/etc).

Guessing this is probably a "no" answer...but just wondering how that works.

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**Question** for anyone that knows the finer details on NCAA basketball recruiting...

Does the NCAA allow a university to offer a ticket(s) to a recruit for post-season games...like the NCAAs or NIT??

Not talking about a university paying for a recruits lodging or transportation to a post-season event.

Just wondering if a recruit wanted to travel to a post-season game on his dime, could the school recruiting him/her offer a ticket from their block of tickets provided to the university from the NCAA (not the paid seats, just the block of seats used by the school officials/staff/etc).

Guessing this is probably a "no" answer...but just wondering how that works.

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Of course it would be a no....those tickets are high-value tickets, and giving them away to recruits or their families is like giving away bowl game tix or free high-dollar school apparel to recruits. It all falls into impermissable benefits, because schools don't give away that kind of stuff to it's entire student body. Schools are permitted a limited number of official visits which may include plane fare, accommodations, and tickets for home games, but never involves post-season events off-campus....

It doesn't mean recruits can't go, but they would have to pay their way there....
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Time to make some new history.
I'm not sure how much history factors into the decision. If he's going to be there or watching, and three of the programs recruiting him are going to be there, it only hurts our chances if we perform poorly, particularly if we get matched up against Duke, as they are recruiting him as well. The worst case scenario would be getting bounced by Marquette. The next worst case would be advancing to face Duke, but getting blown out by them. IF we can beat Marquette and at least look competitive with Duke, I'd say we've at least held serve.

It all depends on the kid's mentality. If he's thinking he's a one-and-done, does he want to go somewhere that's still building a program? If you're only gonna be around a year, that may not make much sense to him. Or would he prefer to go somewhere with an established program where he can get the most bang for his buck with only hanging around for a year?

Or he may not care at all. If he views college as just a 12 month way station for the pros, it may not matter to him if the team is good or not.
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Comes down to if he believes in the pitch of staying home to help the state school continue to rebuild and attract others to make us a good program again, regardless of how long he plays college ball.

Takes a special type person to take the more difficult road, but one that should be more beneficial to those in need rather than an already long established program. Hope he feels the pride and connection to stay in his native state.
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He has stated that he loves all the love and attention by the SC fans (assuming it was the game he attended where the fans chanted for him) but he also wants to look at UNC for a chance to play and potentially get to know Michael Jordan.

Personally, if SC fans can convince him of his potential greatness to meet MJ on the next level, then why both with UNC. He will just be another number there vs. a potential legend in his hometown...
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