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Old 12-16-2017, 07:52 PM   #41
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Just as an aside, our next opponent (Clemson), just beat FL.

Illinois State just beat Mississippi.
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Just as an aside, our next opponent (Clemson), just beat FL.

Illinois State just beat Mississippi.
Will look even better when we beat Clemson on Tuesday.
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Old 12-17-2017, 01:03 AM   #44
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Team has been about what I expected. I've predicted a record around .500 overall and 6-12 in the SEC and I think that's where we are headed. Our non-conference schedule has been very forgiving to this point. Not winning the Puerto Rico Tipoff, and in fact losing in the first round, was a major disappointment. Other than that we haven't had many opportunities to impress given the competition, aside from the Temple game in which we got blown out.

I think the game vs Clemson will be an ugly wake-up call. I pray I'm wrong.
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Unless this team begins to seriously buy into Frank's defensive philosophy, 11th in SEC seems about right.


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Old 12-17-2017, 01:26 AM   #46
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Exactly; the fact they beat Florida doesn't mean a lot because Florida has been playing very mediocre ball since the Duke loss.
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Loyola beat UF when they were ranked #5 the other week.
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Old 12-20-2017, 09:55 PM   #48
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Go back to two years ago when Vandy got into the NCAAT instead of us.

They won early in OOC, but took some losses in December and early SEC play.

Then they figured it out and won enough down the stretch to make it to the NCAAT.

Hopefully that will be our trajectory this year.

Vandy is 4-7 in Bryce Drew's second season this year, but the losses have come from good programs.

Hopefully the lights come on in January-February and stay on instead of going on a 5- or 6-game skid. That would be a first for Frank's recent teams.

We'll see what happens.
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Old 12-20-2017, 10:01 PM   #49
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Go back to two years ago when Vandy got into the NCAAT instead of us.

They won early in OOC, but took some losses in December and early SEC play.

Then they figured it out and won enough down the stretch to make it to the NCAAT.

Hopefully that will be our trajectory this year.

Vandy is 4-7 in Bryce Drew's second season this year, but the losses have come from good programs.

Hopefully the lights come on in January-February and stay on instead of going on a 5- or 6-game skid. That would be a first for Frank's recent teams.

We'll see what happens.
Felder would sure help.
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Felder would sure help.
I don't know about that one.

I like him, but I think he's on the edge of getting boo'd at home should he play bad because of his behavior off the court.

I will go with the decision of the school and Frank, but I think he needs to stay away for a year and pay his dues for the misbehavior.

He came across as an articulate and intelligent person in his pressers, but I don't really understand the disconnect away from the court.

I like him, but I think his actions off the court are just weird.
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Old 12-21-2017, 02:04 PM   #51
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Frank has a plan and I think he will begin to bring in better talent more consistently this year and next. So far it has been inconsistent because of how bad our men's basketball program had become. The FF last year is having an effect but it is delayed by a year because a lot of guys had already committed.

This year's team will improve as we get into SEC play, but whether they can make the NCAA remains to be seen. They have to learn how to win as a team.

But it does irk me to lose to Clemson so much.
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Old 12-22-2017, 06:14 PM   #52
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I don't know about that one.

I like him, but I think he's on the edge of getting boo'd at home should he play bad because of his behavior off the court.

I will go with the decision of the school and Frank, but I think he needs to stay away for a year and pay his dues for the misbehavior.

He came across as an articulate and intelligent person in his pressers, but I don't really understand the disconnect away from the court.

I like him, but I think his actions off the court are just weird.
I honestly can't picture him getting boo'd at home. He's got enough goodwill from his play in the Tourney last year to keep that from happening. I guess it's conceivable with all of the sexual harassment stuff in the news lately though, since his last incident is somewhat along those lines.

I don't like the idea of redshirting him for the rest of this year though. After two incidents in less than a year, I have little to no faith that he makes it 3 1/2 years without a third. If you're Frank, I think you have to get what you can from him now, hope for the best, but plan and recruit for the worst case.
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:44 AM   #53
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I honestly can't picture him getting boo'd at home. He's got enough goodwill from his play in the Tourney last year to keep that from happening. I guess it's conceivable with all of the sexual harassment stuff in the news lately though, since his last incident is somewhat along those lines.

I don't like the idea of redshirting him for the rest of this year though. After two incidents in less than a year, I have little to no faith that he makes it 3 1/2 years without a third. If you're Frank, I think you have to get what you can from him now, hope for the best, but plan and recruit for the worst case.
Has it been determined that he is indeed coming back? (I agree, I don't see him being booed, he is a fan favorite)
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Not totally sure. Everything seems to be pointing towards him coming back. As sad as it is, this is my primary source of info. I don't "know anyone" and am too lazy to scour the internet. Haha
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Old 12-24-2017, 05:16 PM   #55
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It really hurt losing our best players to the NBA. We do not have anyone who can fill those shoes yet. We will likely be a .500 team, maybe win one game in the SEC Tournament then we are out. Not going back to the NCAA.

We need some better recruiting for a few years, I guess if we can find some kids who like to play defense and can score. We might need to focus on foreign players.
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It really hurt losing our best players to the NBA. We do not have anyone who can fill those shoes yet. We will likely be a .500 team, maybe win one game in the SEC Tournament then we are out. Not going back to the NCAA.

We need some better recruiting for a few years, I guess if we can find some kids who like to play defense and can score. We might need to focus on foreign players.
Well, Miami is kind of foreign.
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Old 12-25-2017, 11:32 AM   #58
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It really hurt losing our best players to the NBA. We do not have anyone who can fill those shoes yet. We will likely be a .500 team, maybe win one game in the SEC Tournament then we are out. Not going back to the NCAA.

We need some better recruiting for a few years, I guess if we can find some kids who like to play defense and can score. We might need to focus on foreign players.
We are already focusing on foreign players. Like with Kacinas, LChat and Carrera, it takes a little time to develop them, but the upside is huge.

Silva and Kotsar have improved - a lot - each year. Haase is already very good as a Freshman. Don't give up on Doumbia - he has athletic talent and plenty of potential, but is a little behind due to the clearinghouse. He could give us a 4th inside player by season's end.

We have two major contributors - a starter and top inside reserve - in this class, not counting the transfers. Both Beatty and Doumbia have a chance to be good before the year is over, and they will be here for four years.

In other words - we already have been recruiting well, and recruiting foreign players. Get Rah back as a true PG to go with Gravett, Myers and Holden (when he gets healthy) and we could get back to the tournament and make another run. This year.

Anyone that thought we would have a polished team at the start of the season - with five Freshman and three transfers - does not know basketball. Be a little patient.
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Anyone that thought we would have a polished team at the start of the season - with five Freshman and three transfers - does not know basketball.
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Frank said in one of the PG pressers that one of the starters had a class when practices were going on. That should change with the new semester.

No matter where on the planet they come from, they all have to buy in on his principles.

He also said some guys may be gone they don't start doing that.

We'll see what happens during conference play.
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