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Old 12-27-2017, 10:09 PM   #1
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Frank said in his post game presser today that he had a talk with Felder. Next on the list is to talk with USC officials concerning Felder's return. I think this means Felder is coming back, probably for the spring semester. I don't know when he will join the team and begin practicing, or when he will be ready to play, but it looks like he will be back soon. Very good news!
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Felder submitted his paperwork last week I believe to be readmitted to the university for the spring semester (according to a local radio show down in Charleston)...whether or not that means he will play this year if readmitted I don't know.
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Old 12-27-2017, 10:24 PM   #3
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Seems if the charges were dropped he should have never been suspended. Why are universities trying to insert themselves in the legal process?
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:15 PM   #4
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Seems if the charges were dropped he should have never been suspended. Why are universities trying to insert themselves in the legal process?
That really is a seperate issue..
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Seems if the charges were dropped he should have never been suspended. Why are universities trying to insert themselves in the legal process?
you do realize you don't need to be criminally sentenced or have charges against you to be in trouble with your school don't you? Just because you are lucky that charges against you got dropped, it doesn't mean you didn't deserve to be punished for bad behavior.
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you do realize you don't need to be criminally sentenced or have charges against you to be in trouble with your school don't you? Just because you are lucky that charges against you got dropped, it doesn't mean you didn't deserve to be punished for bad behavior.
I get that. A fight seems like a minor issue unless Iím missing some key details.
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second problem that we know about in a short time. spit on woman...suspension seemed reasonable
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Old 12-28-2017, 09:05 AM   #8
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Old 12-28-2017, 09:11 AM   #9
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I want Felder back as much as the next guy, but it doesn't excuse his actions. He has already been arrested twice since joining the team and suspension seems more than fair. Playing DI collegiate basketball is a privilege that many people would kill to have. Even if he is suspended for the rest season I still wouldn't fault the university.

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I feel like he's done his time... he's earned the chance to come back and contribute under the tutelage of Frank.
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I don't want to defend Felder because it was stupid, and maybe someone can clear it up, but why was he not enrolled at school? I get being suspended from play because even if it wasn't assault, he'd just been arrested and let back on and then puts himself in piss poor situations. Especially with Frank's track record here, he couldn't risk Felder getting a third arrest. And even with the charges dropped, how many on here have been charged or arrested twice in something like 8 months?

However, being removed from USC seems a bit much before being convicted.

Whatever, all I know is that Felder is sorely needed on this team and needs to have his head straight from here on out.
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I have a childhood friend who's doing large time for CDV.

He was educated, attractive to most women, and was in an established white-collar profession.

Not sure why he did what he did, but I think that's the path Rah is heading down.

The other part of this is the argument didn't happen in someone's apartment or dorm room; it happened in Five Points and started a large brawl. The police just never caught the other people.

He had his moments in the NCAAT, but he also got benched a lot for turnovers in the regular season and beyond.

I just think he needs to cool his jets for a year while Frank evaluates his other players.
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I get that. A fight seems like a minor issue unless Iím missing some key details.
In the world of adults it's not minor. It can cost you employment and send you on to a path of more serious crimes. And that is the kind of life lessons you need to learn before you leave college.
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I don't want to defend Felder because it was stupid, and maybe someone can clear it up, but why was he not enrolled at school? I get being suspended from play because even if it wasn't assault, he'd just been arrested and let back on and then puts himself in piss poor situations. Especially with Frank's track record here, he couldn't risk Felder getting a third arrest. And even with the charges dropped, how many on here have been charged or arrested twice in something like 8 months?

However, being removed from USC seems a bit much before being convicted.

Whatever, all I know is that Felder is sorely needed on this team and needs to have his head straight from here on out.
Who knows what information the school has. Also this is not the first time Felder has had issues. I would expect that a decision was made as to what would happened to him if he was charged with a crime a second time or that a standing policy is already in place for such matters.
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I get that. A fight seems like a minor issue unless I’m missing some key details.
The University itself has a "3 strikes" policy, which I believe this incident fell under. It wasn't a matter of violating Athletic or Team rules, it was violating University rules that are set for student conduct.
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I don't want to defend Felder because it was stupid, and maybe someone can clear it up, but why was he not enrolled at school? I get being suspended from play because even if it wasn't assault, he'd just been arrested and let back on and then puts himself in piss poor situations. Especially with Frank's track record here, he couldn't risk Felder getting a third arrest. And even with the charges dropped, how many on here have been charged or arrested twice in something like 8 months?

However, being removed from USC seems a bit much before being convicted.

Whatever, all I know is that Felder is sorely needed on this team and needs to have his head straight from here on out.
He violated University rules for student conduct, one too many times. Non athletes are kicked out of USC after a certain number of violations too.
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He violated University rules for student conduct, one too many times. Non athletes are kicked out of USC after a certain number of violations too.
What rule? I get if he was actually charged with something, but the charges were dropped. There wasn't a crime or an incident.

Basically, you get arrested for a fight your freshman year and do PTI. The next year you spit on a girl after an argument, a fight breaks out, and you get kicked out of college? What I mean is, for this incident, the only thing he's guilty of is spitting on someone. It's an asshole thing to do and misogynistic, but is it worth the punishment?

I'm not saying it was a good decision, but frankly it seemed like a knee jerk reaction by the University.
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What rule? I get if he was actually charged with something, but the charges were dropped. There wasn't a crime or an incident.

Basically, you get arrested for a fight your freshman year and do PTI. The next year you spit on a girl after an argument, a fight breaks out, and you get kicked out of college? What I mean is, for this incident, the only thing he's guilty of is spitting on someone. It's an asshole thing to do and misogynistic, but is it worth the punishment?

I'm not saying it was a good decision, but frankly it seemed like a knee jerk reaction by the University.
Not necessarily a knee jerk reaction if it's listed clearly in the Code of Student Conduct.

"When there is an allegation that a student has committed an offense that is also a crime, a student can be charged both by the criminal justice system and the student conduct system. Disciplinary action at the university will normally proceed independently of pending criminal charges, including when charges involving the same incident have been dismissed by the criminal justice system."

http://www.sc.edu/policies/ppm/staf626.pdf

It could have been any of the rules covering Dangerous Behaviors, and/or Disorderly Conduct.
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