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Old 10-13-2017, 03:21 PM   #101
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Syracuse determined the players didn't violate the university's academic integrity policy. So the NCAA countered by citing the Legislative Council's April 2014 interpretation on academic misconduct and determined that allegations of extra benefits continued to apply regardless of whether a university's academic integrity policy was violated.
Syracuse absolutely should sue the ncaa.
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I have absolutely no use for the ncaa or their cash cow, unc. Sad that the governing body of collegiate athletics is a worthless pos. Wish there was a way for the feds to make them close up shop
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How does this not affect their accredidation?
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:03 PM   #105
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I thought they had some professor confess to doing the class work the of the players. If so this has nothing to do with the class itself and who is allowed in it. Its the fact that the professor is writing doing work and it in another players name. It's plagiarism, fraud, impermissible benefits.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the NCAA's jurisdiction or not finding a good bylaw. The NCAA's mission statement is enough imo. But UNC is bringing the lawyers to drag it out as long as possible and the NCAA doesn't want to have a long legal battle so they caved. That is all this is about. The NCAA being to lilly-livered to act in accordance to it's Mission Statement. And that for me is the last straw. Any organization that can't or won't do what it's mission statement commands needs to be desolved. the NCAA is supposed to be a tax-exempt charitable organization and it won't follow it's own dang mission statement! You're done NCAA!
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Iíve been trying to tell everyone that would listen for a couple of years that the NCAA does not have any jurisdiction over academic issues. This was always a huge overreach by the NCAA. They were hoping UNC would admit their guilt and impose sanctions on themselves. The NCAA is nothing but a bunch of morons that doesnít even impose sanctions fairly amoung schools now. Member institutions and/or conferences are the ones responsible for academic problems. I sincerely hope what comes out of this is they shut down the NCAA and the D-1 schools create their own set of rules and enforcement division. The NCAA has now shown themselves to be worthless and incompetent and have no business having control over anything.
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Iíve been trying to tell everyone that would listen for a couple of years that the NCAA does not have any jurisdiction over academic issues. This was always a huge overreach by the NCAA. They were hoping UNC would admit their guilt and impose sanctions on themselves. The NCAA is nothing but a bunch of morons that doesnít even impose sanctions fairly amoung schools now. Member institutions and/or conferences are the ones responsible for academic problems. I sincerely hope what comes out of this is they shut down the NCAA and the D-1 schools create their own set of rules and enforcement division. The NCAA has now shown themselves to be worthless and incompetent and have no business having control over anything.
How is it an academics issue if no actually academics is going on? That is the point of the fake classes. So their players can cheat their academic requirements by having their teachers do their work or just giving them a good grade and have couple of normal students in the class too just provide a convenient excuse. It's not an academic issue. It's a cheating issue, a fraud issue, and impermissible benefits issue. A lack of institutional control issue. Which is why when UNC first hired a team of lawyers to a bill of 18 million dollars to threaten the NCAA to drag the entire thing through courts as long as possible the NCAA didn't immediately shut the entire investigation down when they heard this BS "don't have no jurisdition," arugment. They just didn't want to have deal with this in courts. Now that they have another big scandal to deal with, they want to wrap this up and go after schools that won't fight back like this.

So in summary: UNC knowingly cheats, admits, knows they were wrong but spends 18 million in legal fees to avoid the consequences citing a technicality and playing a legal staring contest with the NCAA. Disgraceful. And they win because the NCAA really was bluffing. They don't do court battles if they can avoid it even if it means letting a team cheat. They only have the will to punish teams that won't stare them in the eye and tell them no. Disgraceful as well.
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How is it an academics issue if no actually academics is going on? That is the point of the fake classes. So their players can cheat their academic requirements by having their teachers do their work or just giving them a good grade and have couple of normal students in the class too just provide a convenient excuse. It's not an academic issue. It's a cheating issue, a fraud issue, and impermissible benefits issue. A lack of institutional control issue. Which is why when UNC first hired a team of lawyers to a bill of 18 million dollars to threaten the NCAA to drag the entire thing through courts as long as possible the NCAA didn't immediately shut the entire investigation down when they heard this BS "don't have no jurisdition," arugment. They just didn't want to have deal with this in courts. Now that they have another big scandal to deal with, they want to wrap this up and go after schools that won't fight back like this.

So in summary: UNC knowingly cheats, admits, knows they were wrong but spends 18 million in legal fees to avoid the consequences citing a technicality and playing a legal staring contest with the NCAA. Disgraceful. And they win because the NCAA really was bluffing. They don't do court battles if they can avoid it even if it means letting a team cheat. They only have the will to punish teams that won't stare them in the eye and tell them no. Disgraceful as well.
Really nice post except it’s 100% wrong. All the major basketball analysts said this was outside the NCAA jurisdiction, including Bilas who is both an analyst and an attorney. Greg Sanky, SEC commish said the NCAA got it wrong.
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