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Old 09-06-2017, 02:36 PM   #81
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I'm super good with walking and will try out Flatbranch. How early should we get there to be able to eat and drink? noon or 1pm?
For a 6 o'clock start, I hope noon or 1 will get you there with plenty of availability. But it is damn popular. And on game day... even more so.

The only other Brewery downtown is called Broadway Brewery... I'll be honest, I haven't heard good things. There are so many other great bars in Columbia, I'd skip it.

If you're into distilleries, there is one I've heard great things about -- but haven't sampled myself -- called DogMaster Distillery. It's just north of downtown a bit.
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In 2013 you did have a good team but you still backed in. We beat you at your place and that was your only loss, and most of the games were fairly easy wins. But we still had the tiebreaker until we lost a head scratcher to UT late to let you get the title outright.

2014? Most of your SEC wins were close (you beat us 21-20), Georgia blew you out 34 -0, you lost to Indiana (!) at home, and Alabama "squeaked" by you 42-13 in the title game. UGA had the tiebreaker but wound up with two losses. We beat UGA 38-35 so you can thank us for that butt-whupping by Alabama.

So you definitely backed in to the title in 2014, sorta in 2013. We had head scratching losses three years in a row and never made it to the title game despite 6-2 records. The year we did make was definitely a "back in" situation with a 5-3 record, so the same generality can be said about us.
You and I just aren't going to see eye-to-eye regarding 13. We won every game but one. Even the game we lost to you, it was due to an epic comeback by you guys. I was in the stands for it. Cocks fans were congratulating us at halftime for winning already. I'll never forget it.

I will agree that '14's team was not the best. Incredilbe defense, but a total shit offense. Thanks to Maty Mauk and his slight (huge) obsession for drugs, booze, and girls. Dude threw his career away. Still, you can only play the games. If you win more than the other guy, I don't know how that's backing in.



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Really thought you guys would bring a lot to the table in hoops too. Weren't they like an elite 8/sweet 16 team a few times right before hopping over? Oh well stuff goes in cycles I suppose. I do think ya'll should probably be in the west so you can slug it out with r-Kansas, la, tamu, etc...but its hard to move schools and I like that tradition matters in this conference.

I have to level. I kind of hate Drew Lock. He seemed to intentionally try and run over the ball coach a few years back and was REALLY taunting the crowd after scoring in Willy B to tie it up (or close the lead) last season. Other than that and the fact that he lost, I remember nothing about the game. The loss of your DL coach to Miami was seemingly a huge hit. Maybe like when we lost Lawing to UF.
Basketball has been a trainwreck. Worst stretch in our history. We used to routinely fight kansas every year for the Big 8 or Big 12 Championship. Then, a couple of bad coaching hires later... so it goes. I think we're going to be pretty damn good this year with one of the best recruiting classes in the country coming in, which includes the #1 player in the country.

I'm cool with you hating Drew Lock. But I think you're thinking of Maty Mauk who tried to run over the OBC. Drew Lock, from all I've heard and read, is a good kid. Supreme arm talent that will get him drafted high, if nothing else. He's still learning the game. He almost played D1 basketball.

Yeah, Coach Kuhl was a loss (our Dline coach). But he was all sorts of butthurt with Barry Odom was named the replacement DC by Pinkel. Then, he was further butthurt when Odom was named HC. He was so butthurt he left the program -- AND -- he supposedly sent copies of MIzzou's defensive playbook to other SEC teams as a "FU" out the door. Dude has issues. BUT... he's a hell of a coach and recruiter. I'd take him back.
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Odom now does. He took over for DeMontee Cross sometime last year, when the wheels were coming off the D. DeMontee is a former MU player, like Odom... and the resident punching bag.

Both Odom and Cross have been in the crosshairs because they changed up Mizzou's defensive approach that made us so successful. We used to be a one-gap type of defense that stressed beating the OL to the hole quickly. Odom wanted to play read-and-react... So, the DL would engage the OL, and he would be responsible for two gaps often, allowing the LBers to clean up. It's flopped. I think a lot of it has to do with not having the right kind of guys for that system.

I should also mention... I love Gary Pinkel, but he left the cupboard pretty empty. His last couple of recruiting classes were far too lean in some core positions. The biggest, now, being DB. We are super, super young back there. The corners were AWFUL on Saturday. #7, Acy, is supposed to be out #1 CB, and he was out of position all day. I suspect USC will target him early and often. I also suspect we'll see you guys run a lot of screens and short passes to the outside, where we're very soft.
That sounds familiar.

Wasn't Odom the DC under Fuente at Memphis?
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That sounds familiar.

Wasn't Odom the DC under Fuente at Memphis?
Yes, he left for three years to work under Fuente at Memphis. Dave Stechel was still our DC at the time; Stech is now the HC at Missouri State.

Odom did a great job at Memphis. They were shit defensively and turned them into a top 20 unit in 3 years. If he wasn't offered the Mizzou job, he was going to be the HC at Memphis, taking over for Fuentes.
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In 2013 you did have a good team but you still backed in. We beat you at your place and that was your only loss, and most of the games were fairly easy wins. But we still had the tiebreaker until we lost a head scratcher to UT late to let you get the title outright.

2014? Most of your SEC wins were close (you beat us 21-20), Georgia blew you out 34 -0, you lost to Indiana (!) at home, and Alabama "squeaked" by you 42-13 in the title game. UGA had the tiebreaker but wound up with two losses. We beat UGA 38-35 so you can thank us for that butt-whupping by Alabama.

So you definitely backed in to the title in 2014, sorta in 2013. We had head scratching losses three years in a row and never made it to the title game despite 6-2 records. The year we did make was definitely a "back in" situation with a 5-3 record, so the same generality can be said about us.
"backing in" refers to losing a game that you need to win, but getting bailed out by another team losing. Just isn't the case here.

Missouri won 4 in a row heading into the 2013 SEC championship game and 6 in a row heading into the 2014 SEC championship game.

I doubt you admit that you are wrong, so maybe best just to fade away and into another thread. the visitor has already been more than gracious with you.
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Hey, maybe you can clear something up. Who calls the defense? I'm curious how Odom is distributing responsibilities now.
Coach O controls the defense and at this point he is a buffoon at it. It clearly has not understanding of fitting talent to scheme. His preferred system is a hybrid gap read 3 front meshed with a attacking 4 front. We continue to stand up DE as OLB who have no business playing in space. They stand and do nothing but get blocked. Frazer this year a talent standing up looked lost and is mostly ineffective without a hand on the Ground.

We are LB thin and have no legit hybrid OLB type. Also our DT are not gap read players, they are attacking type DL who must gap penetrate. Last year and this year when our DL tries to shiver and control their gap(one gap) they get stood up and drove back hecvk they can't even stalemate OL from a poor FCS team let alone get a push and reestablish the LOS.

Last year we tried to implement Coach O's dream scheme and it reduced Charles Harris to a after thought..yeah the first round draft choice. The defense was a hot mess of garbage and we returned 9 starters from a top 10 defense in 2015....a defense cord. by Coach O. Why the blunderbust when he got full control...well GP wouldn't let Coach O change to his fantasy scheme he had to keep the old defense and call it. GP understood the talent on the roster and what they where capable of.

Coach O believes his scheme is the only way to field a championship well fine maybe a even front gap penetration scheme with Soft coverage over the top to bend but don't break isn't as multiple and championship friendly. But trying to pound a square peg into a round whole get's a coach fired.

Coach O has done some great things, he hired a dang food Offensive staff and has got out of the way. He is doing a good job recruiting and finding undervalued recruits and developing them.

His issue is hubris...he believes he can white board and coach players up to run his system. His stubborn behavior blew up last years defense to the point the players almost revolted in season, they understood they where incapable of running what he wanted...so late in the season he switched back to the old defense an we beat Vandy and Ark.

Mizzou fans thought he had learned his lesson but unless he is pullin fast one on Muschamp he came out in the first half and was running his system and it made our players look like Fools and idiots. And it made his seat hot.

Coach O has everything to be a great head coach but the ability to mesh his talent to a system. He services his system first and his players ability second.

Let's make this clear I have no issue with the scheme he wants to run we run a similar odd front scheme as well. My problem is a junior high coach wouldn't be taking this talent and forcing them to do things they are not capable of.

Now you know why Mizzou fans are upset....we should of won 7-8 games last year if we had ran the 2015 defense with our improved offense...This year it appears its more of the same defensive stupidity.
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Good game, guys. I thought you'd win more like 45 to 30 or so. I didn't think Mizzou's offense would regress so much from Week 1. So be it. You guys are going to be dangerous in the East. Personally, I think we're looking at a 2-3 win season in Columbia West. Hopefully, that will be enough for our new AD to actually hire a coach who deserves an SEC job.

Hope those of you who went to Columbia enjoyed yourself. Safe travels home!
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Good game, guys. I thought you'd win more like 45 to 30 or so. I didn't think Mizzou's offense would regress so much from Week 1. So be it. You guys are going to be dangerous in the East. Personally, I think we're looking at a 2-3 win season in Columbia West. Hopefully, that will be enough for our new AD to actually hire a coach who deserves an SEC job.

Hope those of you who went to Columbia enjoyed yourself. Safe travels home!
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Good game, guys. I thought you'd win more like 45 to 30 or so. I didn't think Mizzou's offense would regress so much from Week 1. So be it. You guys are going to be dangerous in the East. Personally, I think we're looking at a 2-3 win season in Columbia West. Hopefully, that will be enough for our new AD to actually hire a coach who deserves an SEC job.

Hope those of you who went to Columbia enjoyed yourself. Safe travels home!
Good game, bro. Strength and honor and Double L forever.
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Good game, guys. I thought you'd win more like 45 to 30 or so. I didn't think Mizzou's offense would regress so much from Week 1. So be it. You guys are going to be dangerous in the East. Personally, I think we're looking at a 2-3 win season in Columbia West. Hopefully, that will be enough for our new AD to actually hire a coach who deserves an SEC job.

Hope those of you who went to Columbia enjoyed yourself. Safe travels home!
Love fans of opponents who make greetings before the game and are gracious and friendly after the game. It was a great game, and I think Mizzou really does have an elite offense, but I think our D had a really uncharacteristic and great game (but who knows, maybe this will be the new "characteristic" for us). Anyways, Mizzou has a pretty good shot at making a bowl this year. Looking at your guys' schedule the rest of the year, I think you should be able to win 5-6 games.

Thanks for a great game, good luck on your season and see you next year!
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Told you it was Mauk! Dude was probably doing rails in the bathroom at halftime. Total waste of talent.
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Love fans of opponents who make greetings before the game and are gracious and friendly after the game. It was a great game, and I think Mizzou really does have an elite offense, but I think our D had a really uncharacteristic and great game (but who knows, maybe this will be the new "characteristic" for us). Anyways, Mizzou has a pretty good shot at making a bowl this year. Looking at your guys' schedule the rest of the year, I think you should be able to win 5-6 games.

Thanks for a great game, good luck on your season and see you next year!
Oh, yeah. I've really gotten more mild as I've had kids and such. I realized going into this year that Mizzou's ceiling was 6-ish wins. Just too many issues and (what I think is) a bad/inexperienced coaching staff. It makes the loss much easier. Now, if and when I get to games, it's just about enjoying a beautiful football Saturday.

We'll see about the 5-6 wins. Purde looks like they've been resurrected. Idaho is a for sure. I'm not sure there's another team we definitely beat. I'm pretty certain we finish in the basement in the East. I'm good with that... if it means we make a staff change.
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Oh, yeah. I've really gotten more mild as I've had kids and such. I realized going into this year that Mizzou's ceiling was 6-ish wins. Just too many issues and (what I think is) a bad/inexperienced coaching staff. It makes the loss much easier. Now, if and when I get to games, it's just about enjoying a beautiful football Saturday.

We'll see about the 5-6 wins. Purde looks like they've been resurrected. Idaho is a for sure. I'm not sure there's another team we definitely beat. I'm pretty certain we finish in the basement in the East. I'm good with that... if it means we make a staff change.
This is how I was during our 3-9 season. I was fine with a losing season by then end if it meant we'd get the staff changes we so desperately needed.
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I'm confused by this post. You know, that's not Drew Lock who hit the OBC. The dude in that image is our old coked up QB, Maty Mauk.
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Default Re: I Come in Peace, from a Mizzou Fan

MUBob, thanks for visiting and providing good information this week. Best of luck the rest of the season.
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