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Old 09-12-2017, 10:30 PM   #641
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Alexi lalas.. never heard of her...

I think he has a point to a small extent but majority of anythingout of his mouth is hard to listen to.. does the US have more talent than these other teams absolutely but I think we need more dynamic play and not the counter and defend stuff we've seen in the past. Need to find a few forwards who can score 1x1 and quit playing just 1 attacking forward. Give me a 4-3-3 and let's see some goals. Back line is a train wreck with zero consistent play. Yedlin needs to get healthy, Fabian needs to play at back, and Cameron and brooks should get the nod with besler as first man off the bench for either guy. Let's see Jesse Gonzalez in goal and get rid if Howard and Guzan.
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Lalas has a point
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We should hire him as director or coach of the national team.

He nailed it. We have some talented guys, just need to nut up and perform better.

Yes I know we still cannot compete with the rest of the world yet BUT if football takes a hit with the concussion and safety issue, then we will have a chance for some of the young athletes who would otherwise play football maybe take a look at soccer and start developing them from a young age. It's no secret that the best athletes in America play football or basketball from a young age but I think it will slowly start to change in the years to come.
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Very nice win against Panama. Looks like we are in but still have to play at T&T. However we can't be happy to qualify third.

On the bright side we're not Argentina or the Dutch.
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Miss out on the world cup because of loss to Trinidad and Tobago while Honduras and Panama both won. Fn embarrassment
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Good. Now maybe they'll get serious about the sport. Finally Gulati will be gone.

At least we're free to cheer for teams we actually like in the WC. I hated this US team and it was a chore to watch.
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Another positive - I never have to see Bradley or Gonzales play for the US again
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Shocking and disappointing. I'm stunned to see the results go this way. Bottom line we didn't get the results we needed against teams we should have.

Probably the lowest moment I can remember in US soccer history.
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Fire everyone in a position of power tonight. This was absolutely disgraceful and everyone in a position of power associated with this disgrace should be left in Trinidad to find their own way back like SoCal did with Lane Kiffin.
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Damn it this hurts. US Soccer needs to be completely leveled and built up from scratch. This is the worst day in the history of US soccer, and it’s as clear as day: we’re doing it wrong. Our system is not working. The guys at the top need to be ousted and a new model needs to be put in place.
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The more I've thought about this and has time to digest and watch the commentary I am so angry.

I know many don't care about the sport. However for those who do and understand the global impact this is the lowest point in soccer history. And it's not just that we didn't qualify. It's under what circumstances we didn't qualify.

Last time this happened it was 1986. People didn't really care. Many didn't play. There wasn't much professional soccer in this country. Now MLS is nearly a billion dollar league. Guys can make a living from playing the sport. More kids and coaches in this country than ever. More money poured into the sport in this country in the last 10 years than the last 100 years combined. We are a massive country with resources and dollars with a people who are passionate about sports. And even with all that we don't qualify for the World Cup.

I don't want to hear CONCACAF has improved. Not enough countries in our region should be able to compete and beat us enough to keep us from qualifying.

People can blame the top level and coaches and yes they need to be fired. However it's so much bigger than that. Players deserve the blame. We didn't have the talent to qualify for the last two Olympics. Now the talent we have now couldn't qualify for the World Cup. We aren't developing and preparing the talent we have to succeed. And the talent we have isn't good enough. That's on players and coaches.

However it's also on our structure. It's pathetic. We aren't putting together academies coaches and programs to develop the talent we have. That's a failure at the lowest levels. Now we will be set back a decade because of this. And a generation of kids are going to miss out on watching the US play in the World Cup during their prime years of development. Epic failure.

And what type of programs do we have where kids have to pay hundreds and thousands of dollars to play at the highest level? Does a poor kid like Neymar or Messi have to do that? Hell no!!! The system is completely broken. And all the money given to US soccer has been wasted doing a piss poor job of developing and coaching our talent.

From top to bottom I am disgusted. I'm sad that my older son who loves soccer and is good won't be able to watch his country in the World Cup at a prime young age where he would care and it would matter to him. Pisses me off at the absolute ineptitude of soccer from leadership to coaches to players to kids programs.

MLS, US Soccer, and all those involved who love and promote the game better get their ass in gear and fix this.

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I'm at a loss.
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The more I've thought about this and has time to digest and watch the commentary I am so angry.

I know many don't care about the sport. However for those who do and understand the global impact this is the lowest point in soccer history. And it's not just that we didn't qualify. It's under what circumstances we didn't qualify.

Last time this happened it was 1986. People didn't really care. Many didn't play. There wasn't much professional soccer in this country. Now MLS is nearly a billion dollar league. Guys can make a living from playing the spot. More kids and coaches in this country than ever. More money poured into the sport in this country in the last 10 years than the last 100 years combined. We are a massive country with resources and dollars with a people who are passionate about sports. And even with all that we don't qualify for the World Cup.

I don't want to hear CONCACAF has improved. Not enough countries in our region should be able to compete and beat us enough to keep us from qualifying.

People can blame the top level and coaches and yes they need to be fired. However it's so much bigger than that. Players deserve the blame. We didn't have the talent to qualify for the last two Olympics. Now the talent we have now couldn't qualify for the World Cup. We aren't developing and preparing the talent we have to succeed. And the talent we have isn't good enough. That's on players and coaches.

However it's also on our structure. It's pathetic. We aren't putting together academies coaches and programs to develop the talent we have. That's a failure at the lowest levels. Now we will be set back a decade because of this. And a generation of kids are going to miss out on watching the US play in the World Cup during their prime years of development. Epic failure.

And what type of programs do we have where kids have to pay hundreds and thousands of dollars to play at the highest level? Does a poor kid like Neymar or Messi have to do so hat? Hell no!!! The system is completely broken. And all the money given to US soccer has been wasted doing a piss poor job of developing and coaching our talent.

From top to bottom I am disgusted. I'm sad that my older son who loves soccer and is good won't be able to watch his country in the World Cup at a prime young age where he would care and it would matter to him. Pisses me off at the absolute ineptitude of soccer from leadership to coaches to players to kids programs.

MLS, US Soccer, and all those involved who love and promote the game better get their ass in gear and fix this.
All the money poured into it is a problem. At the younger levels it simply out prices a great majority of the athletes. There is so much money in travel ball that there are few good coaches in rec league or school leagues. Coupled with how much it costs to play year round travel ball too many of the really good athletes are never steered that way.
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The more I've thought about this and has time to digest and watch the commentary I am so angry.

I know many don't care about the sport. However for those who do and understand the global impact this is the lowest point in soccer history. And it's not just that we didn't qualify. It's under what circumstances we didn't qualify.

Last time this happened it was 1986. People didn't really care. Many didn't play. There wasn't much professional soccer in this country. Now MLS is nearly a billion dollar league. Guys can make a living from playing the spot. More kids and coaches in this country than ever. More money poured into the sport in this country in the last 10 years than the last 100 years combined. We are a massive country with resources and dollars with a people who are passionate about sports. And even with all that we don't qualify for the World Cup.

I don't want to hear CONCACAF has improved. Not enough countries in our region should be able to compete and beat us enough to keep us from qualifying.

People can blame the top level and coaches and yes they need to be fired. However it's so much bigger than that. Players deserve the blame. We didn't have the talent to qualify for the last two Olympics. Now the talent we have now couldn't qualify for the World Cup. We aren't developing and preparing the talent we have to succeed. And the talent we have isn't good enough. That's on players and coaches.

However it's also on our structure. It's pathetic. We aren't putting together academies coaches and programs to develop the talent we have. That's a failure at the lowest levels. Now we will be set back a decade because of this. And a generation of kids are going to miss out on watching the US play in the World Cup during their prime years of development. Epic failure.

And what type of programs do we have where kids have to pay hundreds and thousands of dollars to play at the highest level? Does a poor kid like Neymar or Messi have to do so hat? Hell no!!! The system is completely broken. And all the money given to US soccer has been wasted doing a piss poor job of developing and coaching our talent.

From top to bottom I am disgusted. I'm sad that my older son who loves soccer and is good won't be able to watch his country in the World Cup at a prime young age where he would care and it would matter to him. Pisses me off at the absolute ineptitude of soccer from leadership to coaches to players to kids programs.

MLS, US Soccer, and all those involved who love and promote the game better get their ass in gear and fix this.
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All the money poured into it is a problem. At the younger levels it simply out prices a great majority of the athletes. There is so much money in travel ball that there are few good coaches in rec league or school leagues. Coupled with how much it costs to play year round travel ball too many of the really good athletes are never steered that way.
Nail meet hammer for both of you. My son is 6 and this is what we're having to deal with right now. To play with one of the club teams here in the upstate, over a thousand bucks minimum. Our little rec league in town, you pay $60 dollars but after U12, there's nothing. You either fork out the cash to play club soccer or quit and play something else. Just one of the many reasons the whole system needs to be overhauled.
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Nail meet hammer for both of you. My son is 6 and this is what we're having to deal with right now. To play with one of the club teams here in the upstate, over a thousand bucks minimum. Our little rec league in town, you pay $60 dollars but after U12, there's nothing. You either fork out the cash to play club soccer or quit and play something else. Just one of the many reasons the whole system needs to be overhauled.


It's like this when I grew up in the 80's too. I was playing rec league as a kid. At some point a lot of my buddies joined the traveling teams. I pretty sure I would have made the team, but my parents didn't have the cash so I stayed in rec league.

I played varsity in high school soccer but was mostly a bench warmer. My friends that I grew up with years ago had developed much more as players on the traveling teams.
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Having Omar Gonzalez on your starting back line is a "fireable offense" in itself.
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Having Omar Gonzalez on your starting back line is a "fireable offense" in itself.
The entire back line MAYBE barring Yedlin is a fireable offense. Sad sad day for Soccer in the US today.
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