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Venables son committing this early to Clemson killed a lot of what we were using against them with the defensive prospects. Thomas has mentioned several times people telling him Clemson's coaches wouldn't be there. Can probably cross Thomas, Henry, and Belk off that list now. White isn't coming here either. We need a more legitimate list. That one was super wishful thinking
Coming here ? Not sure where your " here " is. And u had " wishful thinking " related to the gamecocks ? Ok.
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Venables son committing this early to Clemson killed a lot of what we were using against them with the defensive prospects. Thomas has mentioned several times people telling him Clemson's coaches wouldn't be there. Can probably cross Thomas, Henry, and Belk off that list now. White isn't coming here either. We need a more legitimate list. That one was super wishful thinking
I doubt USC was using that, you don't know crap about what our coaches are doing, and you are a tater through and through, with your once in a while WTF posts, you will deny it, but we already see through your sham.
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I doubt USC was using that, you don't know crap about what our coaches are doing, and you are a tater through and through, with your once in a while WTF posts, you will deny it, but we already see through your sham.
I've seen through Cac for months.
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White isn't coming here. I'd bet good money on that. If today was signing day I think we all could agree Thomas would sign with Clemson. He's going to a school next year with a Clem commit and Clem connections so it probably won't get better. They need ends badly as well. Played a 300lb dt at end all year due to not having numbers at DE and they don't have anyone in the 2017 class to challenge him either. They and others will be tough to beat for Henry as well. Clem can sell having the current sack leader in the NFL and having every one of their de starters for a while drafted with many in the first round. We have to be realistic.

A lot of our fans are only mad now because of the unrealistic expectations so far. We had a very very good season considering everything and our youth at key spots. It's getting better by the day but it'll take several years before we're beating the top programs for whole players. We need to be happy with the progress so far, need to hire a good ol coach, and to keep building and developing and we'll get there. We're on several great prospects with better shots at them than some of the guys listed above
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Sorry CAC. We're getting at least 5 of those guys on the list. Maybe Dumbo should show in-state talent more respect. Then he wouldn't be playing catch up with Champ.
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Venables son committing this early to Clemson killed a lot of what we were using against them with the defensive prospects. Thomas has mentioned several times people telling him Clemson's coaches wouldn't be there. Can probably cross Thomas, Henry, and Belk off that list now. White isn't coming here either. We need a more legitimate list. That one was super wishful thinking
Try to remember your own BS. You already posted Belk was NOT going to clem. So if it's not USC & not clem, where is he going oh psychic tater?
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Venables son committing this early to Clemson killed a lot of what we were using against them with the defensive prospects. Thomas has mentioned several times people telling him Clemson's coaches wouldn't be there. Can probably cross Thomas, Henry, and Belk off that list now. White isn't coming here either. We need a more legitimate list. That one was super wishful thinking
Cool story, tater. We don't give a shit about Clemmy'S recruiting class so maybe go to Taternet and talk with all of your toothless billies about it.

Perhaps you aren't smart enough to understand that this is a Gamecock site and this thread is to discuss Carolina's 2018 recruiting class.
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Old 12-18-2016, 06:48 PM   #28
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I'm trying to understand the logic behind saying Belk won't come here? Does he not have 100% crystal ball projections to us? And did he not also name us as his leader? Jfc y'all use your brains sometimes. Or get better at trolling.
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He's getting all his information from the tater pom pom sites that even the national media laugh at. I have no idea where Thomas , Belk or any other recruit will land other than some educated guesses. But I can say that right now USC leads for Belk & Thomas from what I've been told (not read on a message board) Lots of things can & will happen between now & Feb 2018 but this idea that USC can cross off at least some of the mentioned recruits shows complete ignorance of reality.
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It's a good thing most of them aren't deciding today
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Venables son committing this early to Clemson killed a lot of what we were using against them with the defensive prospects. Thomas has mentioned several times people telling him Clemson's coaches wouldn't be there. Can probably cross Thomas, Henry, and Belk off that list now. White isn't coming here either. We need a more legitimate list. That one was super wishful thinking
Venables ain't on our list, ClemsonAthleticsCheats. He will sign wherever his Dad is coaching, just like Bentley did - If Snider retires, both Bentleys will be at Kansas State. And if he goes, your chances with the remaining defenders will go down.

But you are 100% right about the high rated recruits not coming "here" - since when a Clemson homer says "here" he means the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Northwestern South Carolina, Clemson campus.
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White isn't coming here. I'd bet good money on that. If today was signing day I think we all could agree Thomas would sign with Clemson. He's going to a school next year with a Clem commit and Clem connections so it probably won't get better. They need ends badly as well. Played a 300lb dt at end all year due to not having numbers at DE and they don't have anyone in the 2017 class to challenge him either. They and others will be tough to beat for Henry as well. Clem can sell having the current sack leader in the NFL and having every one of their de starters for a while drafted with many in the first round. We have to be realistic.

A lot of our fans are only mad now because of the unrealistic expectations so far. We had a very very good season considering everything and our youth at key spots. It's getting better by the day but it'll take several years before we're beating the top programs for whole players. We need to be happy with the progress so far, need to hire a good ol coach, and to keep building and developing and we'll get there. We're on several great prospects with better shots at them than some of the guys listed above
We can go one better - a DE that was the #1 draft pick. And we need DEs also. Clemson actually had some young DEs play this year and has some nice recruits coming in. We will have similar situations in terms of talent and immediate PT.

But you are right about Wilkins being out of place at DE - hope that does not expose you guys too much against Ohio State.
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If Snider retires, both Bentleys will be at Kansas State. And if he goes, your chances with the remaining defenders will go down.
I'm assuming you mean both Venables.
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Venables ain't on our list, ClemsonAthleticsCheats. He will sign wherever his Dad is coaching, just like Bentley did - If Snider retires, both Bentleys will be at Kansas State. And if he goes, your chances with the remaining defenders will go down.

But you are 100% right about the high rated recruits not coming "here" - since when a Clemson homer says "here" he means the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Northwestern South Carolina, Clemson campus.
You meant both Venebles, right?
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That's what he meant. Ace gets a little tongue tied at times during his attacks.
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You meant both Venebles, right?
He meant Vegetables, good ole auto correct!
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You meant both Venebles, right?
Correct, I was making the comparison between what happened to the Bentleys and what would happen to the Venables if Snider retires. And switched a name.

Prior to Bobby getting hired, we weren't even thinking about Jake - he was a lock to the lakeless Tigers.

But the funny thing is that ClemsonAthleticsCheats thinks that getting Venables will convince other top defensive recruits to go to Clemson - when it was common knowledge where Venables was going from Day One. Like "Gosh, I was sure Venables was going to South Carolina. This changes everything. I want to go to Clemson now to play with Venables!"
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White isn't coming here. I'd bet good money on that. If today was signing day I think we all could agree Thomas would sign with Clemson. He's going to a school next year with a Clem commit and Clem connections so it probably won't get better. They need ends badly as well. Played a 300lb dt at end all year due to not having numbers at DE and they don't have anyone in the 2017 class to challenge him either. They and others will be tough to beat for Henry as well. Clem can sell having the current sack leader in the NFL and having every one of their de starters for a while drafted with many in the first round. We have to be realistic.

A lot of our fans are only mad now because of the unrealistic expectations so far. We had a very very good season considering everything and our youth at key spots. It's getting better by the day but it'll take several years before we're beating the top programs for whole players. We need to be happy with the progress so far, need to hire a good ol coach, and to keep building and developing and we'll get there. We're on several great prospects with better shots at them than some of the guys listed above
I thought the grinch was only found in children's books and movies. I don't believe the the majority of the fan base is mad- most of us are realistic. This process isn't a 1, 2 or even 3yr fix. Most of us understand it's going to take time to rebuild the relationships we've lost with hs coaches. The staff we have now gets it and there's enough talent in the surrounding states of Fla, Ga and NC for us to compete.

That said, proud of our guys and the coaching staff for being bowl eligible. This shows the staff we currently have can get it done in recruiting and coaching.
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