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Old 01-07-2017, 12:33 AM   #21
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Default Re: Could WCW have Survived?

Sting was arguably at his pinnacle way before the crow strictly from a wrestling standpoint. the crow was awesome and he sold it incredible . his return to wwe was so hype and electric atmosphere was largely because he said he would never work for vince. people thought it would never happen.
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for me Bret Hart, Hogan, sting, road warriors( if I couldn't have take one spot I would lose hogan)
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Default Re: Could WCW have Survived?

Wrestling kept getting worse and worse when the WWE bought up its competitors. WWE was no longer forced to push the limits becasue there was no competition. I miss the days of more than one major wrestling body.
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Wrestling kept getting worse and worse when the WWE bought up its competitors. WWE was no longer forced to push the limits becasue there was no competition. I miss the days of more than one major wrestling body.
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Wrestling kept getting worse and worse when the WWE bought up its competitors. WWE was no longer forced to push the limits becasue there was no competition. I miss the days of more than one major wrestling body.
It's about selling merchandise to kids, that is all. It won't change until Vince dies.
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Default Re: Could WCW have Survived?

Sting was always my favorite. I always wished we had a couple linebackers with his size and athletic ability. But, back to the subject. I do think WCW could have made it. It would have taken someone with the cash obviously and the vision. Even though I was crushed when Vince bought WCW, I thought he could have turned the whole WWE vs WCW rivalry into a ratings boom again. And this time it could have went down under one roof. But his ego and overall hatred of WCW wouldn't allow it.
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Default Re: Could WCW have Survived?

Vince is trying to battle indie wrestling now. Indie wrestling's popularity has grown with promotions like NJPW, ROH, CZW and Lucha Underground. Triple H understands this, that's why NXT has an indie promotion feel to it. Vince is still stuck back in the day.
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Wrestling kept getting worse and worse when the WWE bought up its competitors. WWE was no longer forced to push the limits becasue there was no competition. I miss the days of more than one major wrestling body.
Amen. WCW, as well as ECW, offered an alternative to the WWE back in the day not only for the fans, but the wrestlers as well. Guys who were sick of the situation at one of the major promotions could always go work for one of the other major promotions. And as you said, competition breeds creativity and a better product.
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Vince is trying to battle indie wrestling now. Indie wrestling's popularity has grown with promotions like NJPW, ROH, CZW and Lucha Underground. Triple H understands this, that's why NXT has an indie promotion feel to it. Vince is still stuck back in the day.
That's always been my biggest gripe about Vince. The man almost single handedly revolutionized the wrestling business but was unable to change with the times. If only he could've been able to see the appeal of WCW and kept it going. A properly done WWE vs. WCW feud would have been guaranteed money.
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He should have let Shane have WCW, and seen what he could do with the company. That's how it was "sold" to the fans initially anyways. Steph and H have more pull than Shane right now. It's funny because Shane is the only one any of the fans remotely like.
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He should have let Shane have WCW, and seen what he could do with the company. That's how it was "sold" to the fans initially anyways. Steph and H have more pull than Shane right now. It's funny because Shane is the only one any of the fans remotely like.
Honestly Shane should be the one running things. He's got the mind for business as well as what wresting fans want. He's always been so under appreciated.
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No love for TNA wrestling?
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No love for TNA wrestling?
I hate to say it but I just don't see TNA making the same impact that WCW did as an alternative to the WWE.
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WWE won't even let TNA be referenced in their roster bios.

That said, they have the best thing to ever come out of TNA in AJ Styles.
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I've been watching a lot of old WCW matches lately and have been wondering if there was some way WCW could have survived the AOL/Time Warner merger. It's sad to think of how much talent they wasted in favor of the old timers.
Nobody really answered the OP's question. WCW absolutely could have survived the merger.

The 2 main reasons WCW is dead:

1. Eric Bischoff was the frontrunner to acquire complete control of the company with an ownership group he put together. But, one of the primary funders of the group backed out of the deal at the last minute.

2. the new director of Turner Broadcasting was not a wrestling fan and felt WCW didn't fit the new direction of the network. So, they cancelled WCW on TBS and TNT. I'm pretty sure at the time, WCW still had Nitro, Thunder, and Saturday Night.

Then after that WWF swooped in and took everything.

Maybe Vince could have allowed Shane or Stephanie to run WCW as a seperate company, but I think Vince's ego wasn't going to allow that, as he had finally bought the company that almost ran him out of business prior to the Attitude Era. Plus, it would have been pretty expensive to run another company on top of RAW and Smackdown.

That said, I don't think WCW would be alive today and if they were, I don't think they would be doing well. Wrestling is not as popular as it used to be in the 80's and 90's. WWE has seen a major drop in audience viewership over the years too, but they have pretty much cornered 95% or more of the cult fanbase of wrestling.
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I hate to say it but I just don't see TNA making the same impact that WCW did as an alternative to the WWE.
that is because the WCW grew at the same time as wwe. it was not David vs Goliath like now.
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Vince is trying to battle indie wrestling now. Indie wrestling's popularity has grown with promotions like NJPW, ROH, CZW and Lucha Underground. Triple H understands this, that's why NXT has an indie promotion feel to it. Vince is still stuck back in the day.
njpw is not indie by any means. njpw is the Japanese equivalent to wwe. has been around since early 70s. was huge in early 80s.
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WCW made bad business decisions by giving extended contracts and way overpaying. it wasn't viable. I was always a nwa guy growing up in the 80s. ECW was what wrestling needed. they couldn't financially be the premier group but they revolutionized wrestling and led to the attitude Era and the Monday night wars
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WCW could have only survived if they went back to their roots. They were losing money at a record pace based on the money they were throwing at guys who weren't bringing in equal money in return. Bischoff couldn't have saved the company because he's the one that really put the end in motion. At one time the NWA was the wrestling based company and the WWF was a cartoon. The independent companies thriving today do it based on being wrestling focused and WWE is back to being a cartoon.

It will be interesting to see what TNA does with new ownership. I don't think you'll ever see a WCW vs WWE level competition again but if TNA could somehow find their way back on a real network without the incompetence of Dixie Carter running it they might be able to be a more solid alternative.
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WCW made bad business decisions by giving extended contracts and way overpaying. it wasn't viable. I was always a nwa guy growing up in the 80s. ECW was what wrestling needed. they couldn't financially be the premier group but they revolutionized wrestling and led to the attitude Era and the Monday night wars
I think ECW was the last thing wrestling needed. Wrestling was at its best when you hated the guy who put someone out for weeks from a chair shot. When people started cheering guys for using weapons and began chanting for staples rather than the guys in the ring it was the beginning of the end. Wrestling was always about making people pick one person over the other in a battle of good vs evil not about seeing how many pile drivers through a table you can do in 30 min before a guy is finally beaten with a clothesline.
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