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Old 12-26-2017, 10:37 AM   #41
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I agree...they are brother and sister and Kylo tried to explore her one weakness by lying to her
I don't think Rey being her daughter would have gotten by Leia. It's probably equally unlikely that Luke wouldn't realize it. I think there's a chance she could be in Obi Wan's line somehow or maybe Qui Gon, but odds that she's a Skywalker are very low at this point.
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Maybe Qui Gon got busy with Shmi Skywalker she put the offspring up for adoption and Rey is the child of that child.
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Yep, it's the 2nd worst all time in my list, just above TPM.
I put this below TPM. It was awful. I also canít stand Kylo. He acts like a whinny 15 year old bitch. There is no initimidation with him or true presence. The last 3 movies have all been underwhelming.
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I put this below TPM. It was awful. I also canít stand Kylo. He acts like a whinny 15 year old bitch. There is no initimidation with him or true presence. The last 3 movies have all been underwhelming.
Rogue one? I thought that was the best one made
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So, who will be the other sith? There are always 2
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Rogue1 was good
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Rouge one was great. This movie was not that good. When she got blown out into space and then flew back into the ship, that was awful. Admiral Ackbar died and there was only one brief mention and that sucked as well. 2 out of 5 stars.
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Part of me doesn't believe Ren was telling the truth about Rey's parents.
I hope you're right buddy, because if he was it damn near ruins the whole Star Wars franchise for me.
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I agree...they are brother and sister and Kylo tried to explore her one weakness by lying to her
I don't think that's a possibility any longer. Her being a force baby like Anakin is about the only way they could go and still maintain credibility at this point, IMO.
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I hope you're right buddy, because if he was it damn near ruins the whole Star Wars franchise for me.
Why does it ruin it? Before Annakin there was no Skywalker. He came from nothing.

So now Rey is set up to the same way. She comes from nothing. And Rian Johnson gets the three after Ep 9 so he will probably stick with that angle and start a new storyline from nothing.

So having Rey come from nothing ends the Skywalker story and allows for something new.

Started with nothing with Skywalker and now Skywalker will end and go in a new direction after 9. Like it or not it makes sense.
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Rogue one? I thought that was the best one made
Wasn’t impressed. Best part was seeing Vader at the end. I found the character arcs weak and the main character not engaging.

Here is a thing highlighting the bad stuff in rogue 1.

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Why does it ruin it? Before Annakin there was no Skywalker. He came from nothing.

So now Rey is set up to the same way. She comes from nothing. And Rian Johnson gets the three after Ep 9 so he will probably stick with that angle and start a new storyline from nothing.

So having Rey come from nothing ends the Skywalker story and allows for something new.

Started with nothing with Skywalker and now Skywalker will end and go in a new direction after 9. Like it or not it makes sense.
See post 49...
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I don't think that's a possibility any longer. Her being a force baby like Anakin is about the only way they could go and still maintain credibility at this point, IMO.
yeah that is probably right
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See post 49...
I still don't think that matters. Someone can be strong in the force without having some lineage or supernatural reason for it.

This seems like an attempt to end the Skywalkers (Ben/Ren aside) and go in a different direction.
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I don't think that's a possibility any longer. Her being a force baby like Anakin is about the only way they could go and still maintain credibility at this point, IMO.
Snoke said he was manipulating ren's thoughts, so who knows
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Wasnít impressed. Best part was seeing Vader at the end. I found the character arcs weak and the main character not engaging.

Here is a thing highlighting the bad stuff in rogue 1.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GSCP2yg-v2g
Not a good video. He doesn't know a lot about Star wars Canon or connections
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Here is a thing highlighting the bad stuff in rogue 1.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GSCP2yg-v2g
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Their critique of Rogue final fight scene (12 minute mark) is accurate in my opinion. So many dumb things and setup. The last 3 Star Wars have been underwhelming.
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Their critique of Rogue final fight scene (12 minute mark) is accurate in my opinion. So many dumb things and setup. The last 3 Star Wars have been underwhelming.
I respect the fact that you put your opinion out there. I disagree with it because the quality of Rogue One was better than the prequels and the latest episodes movies.

Which hero made it through in Rogue One?

Of course shooting was bad because it is fiction and you are asked to suspend reality for fiction. But, it's no different than many other movies. Like I said, that cinema sin evaluation was not good because that guy doesn't know the star wars movies or the connecting canon.

Who allowed Cypher in and out of the matrix?

Why did Daniel-son win the karate tournament with an illegal kick to the face?

It's really not that big of a deal
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We may go watch it again this weekend. Feel like I need to, as when we walked out of it the first time, I was just like "meh"? After thinking about it, I think I like it, but there were aspects I disliked (Most have been mentioned), the 'meh", and the enjoyable:

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The Leia float: The missus and I both eye-rolled at that one.

Knights of Ren: Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. If they were Snoke's guards, that was a waste of an opportunity, IMO.

Canto Bight: Felt like filler, and although I love Benicio del Toro as an actor, it was a letdown. Maybe I was just expecting more.

MEH

Admiral Ackbar death: As a SW geek, I love Ackbar, and would have liked to have seen him go out in style, maybe pulling the stunt that Laura Dern's character ultimately did. BUT, for the casual viewer, he was probably a nobody.

Luke's Death/One with the Force: I do like the call back to Empire. He buys time for Leia and the others to escape just like Obi-Wan did, and sacrifices himself in the process. Personally, I'd rather have seen a 1 on 1 with Kylo showdown, or maybe a Luke going full Force mode to save everyone. Which in a way he did, but I mean a la Vader at the end of Rogue One.

Snoke: I personally liked his death scene, but who dafuq is this guy??? Much like the Knights of Ren, still a mystery. Nobody does motion capture better than Andy Serkis (except maybe Doug Jones), and I wish they would have got some more action out of him.

The new cast: I think they are great. Good character progression, although the Kylo/Rey Force communication was too much at times.


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Battle Scenes: All top notch to me. Especially, Crait. (I thought Finn was a goner, for sure). Seems like we've had a battle in damn near every environment, but the look of white and red was a nice backdrop. Rey and Kylo's fight with the guards was awesome, loved the space battles, and who doesn't love seeing the Falcon in action?

Carrie Fisher: Aside from the "float", she was great as always.

Laura Dern: Aside from the purple hair, she was a badass, and pulled of the character very well.

Luke: Seeing Luke almost kill Kylo in the flashback weird, but the Skywalkers have always struggled with the Light/Dark. I can see where fanboys are upset, but I think it added depth to his character. Glad to see him reunite with Leia, and when he walks out on Crait, swipes the sand off his shoulder, and is like "That all you got?" was awesome, IMO. He's a legend in the galaxy, so of course he should step out in front of an army alone! He's Luke F*cking Skywalker! Say it was too campy or too Mark Hamill, but if he would have said something like "Let's rock" or "I've came to kick ass and chew Porgs. And I'm all out Porgs." I'd have loved it even more. Hopefully he returns in the next one as a Force ghost, because I really wasn't ready for him to go.

Lastly, throwbacks & Easter Eggs that I thought were cool:

The door on Luke's hut? Door from his X-Wing (under water again)

Seeing the Falcon bust through the sand on Crait reminded me of it flying out of the Death Star II when Lando was piloting it.

Han's Dice, that Luke gives to Leia: They are hard to see in the original movie, but in one the main promo shots of Star Wars they are clearly visible. Those were the dice that Han won the ship from Lando with. (If that was posted already, I missed it).

Rogue One: I loved Rogue One, so when the hyperspace tracking was happening, I went "Aha!" to the missus.

There's a couple others that I can't think of at the moment, but I need to get back to work. I may add some more opinions later if we go see it again this evening. Ultimately, I see the hate and backlash, but I think it was a fun movie, which is what Star Wars is supposed to be.
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