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Old 02-04-2018, 09:06 AM   #1
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Default Amtrax Crash in Cayce.

Collision with a freight train. Two dead, 70 injuried.
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:11 AM   #2
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Default Amtrax Crash in Cayce.

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CAYCE, S.C. (AP) — A crash between an Amtrak passenger train and a CSX freight train in South Carolina has left at least two people dead and more than 50 injured.
The State newspaper reports the crash happened about 2:35 a.m. Sunday near Charleston Highway and Pine Ridge Road in Cayce, South Carolina. All passengers were removed from Amtrak 91, which was operating from New York to Miami
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:52 AM   #3
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Wow. Just woke up and saw this. Prayers to all affected.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:30 PM   #4
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Seems to be happening a lot with Amtrac lately-This one, the Congressional one last week, one out west a few weeks ago.


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Old 02-04-2018, 12:31 PM   #5
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About 6-7 miles from my house.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:46 PM   #6
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Had several friends working at the hospital last night dealing with victims. Props to them and prayers to the victims
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Old 02-04-2018, 05:02 PM   #7
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Brings back memories of the Graniteville train disaster. Moving train gets diverted to wrong track that was loaded.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:17 AM   #8
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Default Re: Amtrax Crash in Cayce.

My dad was a 32-year CSX engineer/conductor before he retired many years ago.

The railroads were the most technology-advanced business sector before the airlines took their business in the 60s and 70s.

There are adequate signalling systems that let an engineer of an approaching train know of switch conditions well in advance.

The Amtrak engineer may have been asleep and/or going too fast to see them in time.

He could have been behind schedule and trying to make up lost time.

It's sad either way.
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He could have been behind schedule and trying to make up lost time.
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Seems to be happening a lot with Amtrac lately-This one, the Congressional one last week, one out west a few weeks ago.


Heart goes out to the families

I think the local news said 4 fatal train accidents so far this year.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:56 AM   #11
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Amtrak blamed a freight rail operator for causing a crash on Sunday that killed two people and injured more than 100 others when one of its passenger trains was diverted onto a side track and slammed into a parked, unmanned freight train in South Carolina.

In the U.S. passenger rail operator's third fatal crash in as many months, Amtrak Train 91, carrying nine crew members and 136 passengers, was traveling from New York to Miami when it hit the CSX Corp freight train that was stopped on a side track, or siding, at about 2:35 a.m. (0735 GMT).

Amtrak President and Chief Executive Richard Anderson said CSX was responsible for the tracks and signals, including one that had a lock attached to it and diverted the Amtrak train onto the side track.

"CSX had lined and padlocked the switch off the mainline to the siding, causing the collision," he said in a statement.

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Old 02-05-2018, 11:59 AM   #12
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I think the local news said 4 fatal train accidents so far this year.
Three Amtrax incidents since the first of December.

And not to make this a political discussion, but Amtrax subsidies have been the subject of congressional ire for a long time (even tho the return on investment for those subsidies are much higher than those for highway and air travel.) Amtrax budget has been cut significantly since 2010. I'll just leave this here without commentary as I like to keep such things apolitical.

Its apples to oranges, but if you've ever traveled Europe by rail, you know the marvels of well run, on time, efficient train travel. Many years ago, I went to Switzerland for a ski holiday Flew to Zurich, picked my bags up in the Airport, went through customs, walked to the train station inside the airport, boarded the train and arrived at my destination just after lunch. On the return trip, I checked my ski bags from the local train station to the airport for just over $2 a piece. I picked them up the next day at the airport before we boarded our flight home. I think my round trip train ticket was just shy of $75.
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:09 PM   #13
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The crash happened about 1.5 miles from where I live. I woke up Sunday Morning
and turned on Fox News and the first hour of the show was nothing but reports
about the wreck. For the first 15 minutes, they kept calling the "Town Near Columbia"
as "Case". Some people who live in the area called / tweeted and told them it
was Pronounced Cayce (K-C). When I was trying to get a fix on where they said
it happened, they said the affected passengers that weren't injured were transported
to Pine Ridge Middle School for shelter and said it was near the crash site, that's
when I started to realize that it was extremely close to my house. In the first press
conference at 6.30, they said the site was at Pine Ridge Dr. and Charleston
Highway. That was at the car salvage site, and near the Home Depot Dist. Center.
I figured with it being there, that someone either re-directed the tracks to load
or unload freight from one of those huge businesses, and failed to switch the track
back to main line, or they didn't get the freight train off the main line in time and
left it sitting on the track before moving it to the side.

I heard the initial ruling last night that CSX freight was at fault for moving the
freight over to the side for loading cars to the salvage site, and locked the
switched track into place, causing the AMTRAK train to veer off the main line and
into the freight cars moved over to the Salvage yard. As bad as the crash was,
it could have been MUCH MUCH worse had the Amtrak train been speeding or
had there been several more Freight cars on the side track.
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I'm going to be honest, I'm not getting on an Amtrax for a long loooong time if I can help it.

Imagine if these were plan crashes. Would you want to take a flight after all of these recent accidents?
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Que they “It’s safer than driving your car” debate

At least I control a portion of the decision making in a car.
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Que they “It’s safer than driving your car” debate

At least I control a portion of the decision making in a car.
My reply to that (when referencing planes) is always, "True, but you can have a fender bender in a car. If you have a little bump in a plan, you're dead."
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True Fact: I was in a plane crash when I was in High School. We were flying to see SC play Michigan back in 1985.
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It sound like someone failed to close a switch. Whoever this is will end up in court charged with manslaughter when all is said and done.
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About 6-7 miles from my house.
How far would the site be from Summerland Drive. My Grandmother's lived in that area.
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Hate to quibble but the name of the train company is Amtrak. Not Amtrax or Amtracks, it's Amtrak. Carry on
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