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Old 12-22-2015, 09:55 PM   #1
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Default 2018 MBB Zion Williamson (SC)

Wing out of Spartanburg. Already holds a Clemson offer.

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We offered him back in April. He's now a 5* and rated the #2 SF for the 2018 class and #6 overall per 247Sports. It doesn't appear that we are in any kind of good position with him, which is a shame considering that he's out of Spartanburg and is easily going to be the top in-state prospect for that cycle, but there is still a long ways to go.

We need to start making better in-roads into keeping the top in-state prospects in-state, and stop losing most of them to OOS programs. DeVontae Shuler was once considered 100% to us but now he's moving towards UNC as well. This state puts out enough elite BB talent for our program to make huge strides forward, if we could just find a way to start getting them to come to USC. But by judging from this and the other player threads started on Williamson, he isn't even on our program's or fanbase's radar......


Also, the mods need to merge this thread with this one: http://www.cockytalk.com/showthread....highlight=zion
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We offered him back in April. He's now a 5* and rated the #2 SF for the 2018 class and #6 overall per 247Sports. It doesn't appear that we are in any kind of good position with him, which is a shame considering that he's out of Spartanburg and is easily going to be the top in-state prospect for that cycle, but there is still a long ways to go.

We need to start making better in-roads into keeping the top in-state prospects in-state, and stop losing most of them to OOS programs. DeVontae Shuler was once considered 100% to us but now he's moving towards UNC as well. This state puts out enough elite BB talent for our program to make huge strides forward, if we could just find a way to start getting them to come to USC. But by judging from this and the other player threads started on Williamson, he isn't even on our program's or fanbase's radar......


Also, the mods need to merge this thread with this one: http://www.cockytalk.com/showthread....highlight=zion
We need success on the court first unfortunately. Unlike in football we can't sell come play in the best conference in the country. We need to make the tournament and pick up a couple of wins. Hopefully we can make some noise this year, we need to be the program these kids grow up wanting to play for. Chapel Hill and Durham aren't too far away so we've essentially got 2 elite schools in our backyard that kids in SC grow up fans of. Only one way to change it.
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We offered him back in April. He's now a 5* and rated the #2 SF for the 2018 class and #6 overall per 247Sports. It doesn't appear that we are in any kind of good position with him, which is a shame considering that he's out of Spartanburg and is easily going to be the top in-state prospect for that cycle, but there is still a long ways to go.

We need to start making better in-roads into keeping the top in-state prospects in-state, and stop losing most of them to OOS programs. DeVontae Shuler was once considered 100% to us but now he's moving towards UNC as well. This state puts out enough elite BB talent for our program to make huge strides forward, if we could just find a way to start getting them to come to USC. But by judging from this and the other player threads started on Williamson, he isn't even on our program's or fanbase's radar......


Also, the mods need to merge this thread with this one: http://www.cockytalk.com/showthread....highlight=zion
Well at least Kornblut put out an article today that has Shuler scheduling an OV to USC as one of his 5 OVs, and UNC isn't one of them. So perhaps we're in strong position with him. It's just all 3 of the 247sports CBs for him to UNC were the most recent CBs, so after the Woods recruitment I'm a bit concerned with them....but we may still be good there....
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Default Re: 2018 MBB Zion Williamson (SC)

In time, USC will be the dream school for a lot of the best players in SC. I think it should be now, but it isn't. But the more success they have, the more kids will want to go there. Gotta get into the NCAA and win a game or two. Do that a couple of years and things will change for some of the better players.
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Default Re: 2018 MBB Zion Williamson (SC)

We need to recognize good in-state talent earlier like we do in football. Having a kid following you for a few years because you offered them early gives you a huge advantage than coming in after several big name schools have offered.

Loading up on "project" players is a time consuming way of trying to mold players into what you think they can do. Our staff needs to get better at recognizing talent early... Tevin Mack is a perfect example.
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I went on TBS not too long ago, and it seems we haven't offered any of the Top 5 players from the state in 2019. Two of them are going to schools in the Columbia area.
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Old 08-13-2016, 04:14 PM   #9
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I went on TBS not too long ago, and it seems we haven't offered any of the Top 5 players from the state in 2019. Two of them are going to schools in the Columbia area.
Frank does not offer a player just because someone else does. From what I have read, it seems he won't offer a player until he knows something about them and has talked with them, and thinks they would be a good fit for his program. Not every good player qualifies.
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Frank does not offer a player just because someone else does. From what I have read, it seems he won't offer a player until he knows something about them and has talked with them, and thinks they would be a good fit for his program. Not every good player qualifies.
Explains why we are missing out on great players from our own backyard. I'd personally take a Tevin Mack over a lot of these other players we settled for the past 2 years.
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Explains why we are missing out on great players from our own backyard. I'd personally take a Tevin Mack over a lot of these other players we settled for the past 2 years.
He offered Tevin Mack and went after him hard, Mack was hurt that he went after Dozier harder and from what I understand when Dozier chose South Carolina, Mack chose VCU...
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He offered Tevin Mack and went after him hard, Mack was hurt that he went after Dozier harder and from what I understand when Dozier chose South Carolina, Mack chose VCU...
Mack's relationship with Shaka was too strong by the time we got around to finally offering him. If we had recognized Mack's skills much sooner in the process, like the other schools did, we would've had a chance at landing him. Even one of his "Handlers" blasted us on Twitter for coming to the table so late when Mack grew up in our back yard.
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Does anyone know where we truly stand with him? Says nice things about us and Clemson, but some have him as the nation's top recruit and we aren't usually options for that type of player. PK posted this, http://sportstalksc.com/index.php/20...llege-coaches/
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Does anyone know where we truly stand with him? Says nice things about us and Clemson, but some have him as the nation's top recruit and we aren't usually options for that type of player. PK posted this, http://sportstalksc.com/index.php/20...llege-coaches/
Not good. Duke, Kentucky and clemson are all well ahead of us as of now.
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Visiting us Oct 8 and Clemson Oct 1. Duke and Georgetown will be in to see him Thursday.
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Visiting us Oct 8 and Clemson Oct 1. Duke and Georgetown will be in to see him Thursday.
He has said all along USC and clemson would get visits along with 3 out of state programs but our chances at him are very, very slim.
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Will end up at Duke.
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His blurb is at the bottom of the article. Unbelievable...

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His blurb is at the bottom of the article. Unbelievable...

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That's about par for the course for our basketball recruiting... late and half-a$$ed... smh
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That's about par for the course for our basketball recruiting... late and half-a$$ed... smh
so you arent a fan of the guys frank has brought in?
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