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Old 02-15-2018, 12:29 AM   #61
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Martin does not worry me at all, very glad we have him as our coach. We are a very young team this season and playing without two players we had counted on. As for Frank's recruiting he likes where we now stand with our recruiting. We should be much better next year.
For the love of Pete, can we lay off the excuses. If Frank was "counting on" Dozier being here this year, then it means he's an awful coach. Some of you treat Frank like he's a glorified fan. He's the HEAD COACH. He gets paid $1.5 million/year or whatever to put a team together. He should have anticipated the possibility of Dozier going pro and planned accordingly. The fact that he was left with the cupboards bare is nobody's fault but his own.

And, Felder looks like a good player, but he average 5.6 points last season. So it's not like having him back would transform this team into a tournament team.

Folks are fixating on 2 guys who aren't playing, while ignoring the fact that none of the rest of the roster Frank has assembled belong in the SEC.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:08 AM   #62
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For the love of Pete, can we lay off the excuses. If Frank was "counting on" Dozier being here this year, then it means he's an awful coach. Some of you treat Frank like he's a glorified fan. He's the HEAD COACH. He gets paid $1.5 million/year or whatever to put a team together. He should have anticipated the possibility of Dozier going pro and planned accordingly. The fact that he was left with the cupboards bare is nobody's fault but his own.

And, Felder looks like a good player, but he average 5.6 points last season. So it's not like having him back would transform this team into a tournament team.

Folks are fixating on 2 guys who aren't playing, while ignoring the fact that none of the rest of the roster Frank has assembled belong in the SEC.
It's not just those 2, it's that Kory Holden has been hurt most of the season. If we were starting Felder, Holden/Booker, Minaya, Kotsar and Silva, we would have a doggone good team with the others coming in off the bench.
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For the love of Pete, can we lay off the excuses. If Frank was "counting on" Dozier being here this year, then it means he's an awful coach. Some of you treat Frank like he's a glorified fan. He's the HEAD COACH. He gets paid $1.5 million/year or whatever to put a team together. He should have anticipated the possibility of Dozier going pro and planned accordingly. The fact that he was left with the cupboards bare is nobody's fault but his own.

And, Felder looks like a good player, but he average 5.6 points last season. So it's not like having him back would transform this team into a tournament team.

Folks are fixating on 2 guys who aren't playing, while ignoring the fact that none of the rest of the roster Frank has assembled belong in the SEC.
I'm also looking at the fact that Holden isn't what we were hoping he would be due to injury. Remember coming into the year Holden was supposed to be the best or 2nd best player on our team, not a guy that comes off the bench occasionally. Do I think losing Dozier early hurt? Yes. But Holden was the backup plan for that. Not having a healthy Holden has been a killer. Do I think Felder is an All-SEC guard this year? No. Do I think he is vastly better at being a PG than Gravett or Myers? Yes and that would have been the difference in a probably 3-4 games at least. Some years you just have bad luck, outside of this year Frank has improved our team every single season since he got here if anything this is the fluke year based on his track record. I have a feeling we'll be in serious contention for the NCAA Tournament and perhaps another run next season under Frank's leadership with the team that will be returning.
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:05 AM   #64
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Well, that Final Four was a nice memory.
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:10 AM   #65
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Felder looks like a good player, but he average 5.6 points last season. So it's not like having him back would transform this team into a tournament team.

Folks are fixating on 2 guys who aren't playing, while ignoring the fact that none of the rest of the roster Frank has assembled belong in the SEC.
The point of a point guard is not always to be a prolific scorer...8-10 ppg is plenty. His purpose is to place the ball in such a position as to facilitate scoring.

As to the rest of the roster, you are correct, but only in a sense, as they are role players, very much key in any conference and on any team. Role players seem to be really good players when they are substituted for a purpose. When they are asked to carry the entire load, not so much. Because of key losses, which happens to most every team in this conference not named Kentucky, the problems are magnified and result in losses that could have been wins.

Excuses are quite often valid, and in this case,very much so.
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I didn't like that play call either.

Edit: nevermind misread the post. On defense it looked like Booker got too far under and hurt Silvas chance to recover off the spin move.
yeah, should have cut off his move back to the paint rather than standing in front of him or stayed behind him and tried to block the shot from behind. im guessing frank wanted the former rather than the latter and got neither which led to a free shot in the paint.

gravett was much better this game, frank gave him the backhanded compliment of the year when he said something to the effect of when youre not used to playing that hard youre going to cramp up. hes probably never going to be a good penetrator or finisher at the rim but he did a good job of getting to his spots on the floor where he could get his shot up rather than forcing the issue into traffic and ending up with a worse shot. thats a lesson a lot of the guys on the team need to learn through experience hopefully sooner rather than later. if youve got a good look from 10-15 and you dont have the athleticism or skill to finish at the rim why are you going all the way and ending up with a worse shot.

i also think tennessee is a good matchup for us because they dont have a ton of length inside or athletic scorers on the perimeter imo. we get both of those and its an uphill climb, not that we cant overcome it if we play smart and hard.

i hate going over what could have been because it is what it is, but its not just one position this team is missing. we need better play at the point, on the wings, and in the paint. felder, dozier, and keita are the 3 guys this team needed.
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:24 PM   #67
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We have neither length or leadership at PG.

Silva has emerged as the bread out of the leadership oven and has both.

We should move Silva to PG and let Cudd, KG, and Ibby have more PT at F.
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For the love of Pete, can we lay off the excuses. If Frank was "counting on" Dozier being here this year, then it means he's an awful coach. Some of you treat Frank like he's a glorified fan. He's the HEAD COACH. He gets paid $1.5 million/year or whatever to put a team together. He should have anticipated the possibility of Dozier going pro and planned accordingly. The fact that he was left with the cupboards bare is nobody's fault but his own.

And, Felder looks like a good player, but he average 5.6 points last season. So it's not like having him back would transform this team into a tournament team.

Folks are fixating on 2 guys who aren't playing, while ignoring the fact that none of the rest of the roster Frank has assembled belong in the SEC.
You seem to forget the fact Frank took over a horrible program, took us to the Final Four last year, got cheated out of a bid the prior year. This is a down year due to several unexpected factors. Next year the program looks very good as most of us seem to think.
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