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Old 01-01-2018, 09:41 PM   #901
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I understand what you're saying and don't disagree, but I have to keep reminding myself that this was his very first time in the real role. He should improve.
I think Will has a tough decision. If he goes with this gut, Bryan probably gets a promotion. If it backfires, I guess Will could fire & hire again. He'll almost be obligated to give Bryan 2 years to prove something. That's the risk.
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Problem is, if you're Muschump, are you willing to take that risk?
Especially if I can pay top $$ for some guy that might really make a difference.
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Problem is, if you're Muschamp, are you willing to take that risk?
1. Please edit your post so that Muschamp's name is correct if you haven't already done it by the time I respond.

2. I agree. It's a tough spot he's in. He's big on continuity it seems, so it won't surprise me if he takes the chance on a guy who has proven to be such a commodity to the program on the offensive coaching staff.
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1. Please edit your post so that Muschamp's name is correct if you haven't already done it by the time I respond.

2. I agree. It's a tough spot he's in. He's big on continuity it seems, so it won't surprise me if he takes the chance on a guy who has proven to be such a commodity to the program on the offensive coaching staff.
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2- if he had a better reputation with offense, I think it would be a worthwhile risk. With his reputation what it is though, I think he needs to at least try for what would appear to be a homerun type of hire.
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At this point, there is less evidence that it's a good hire than the alternative. If you're Will, you willing to stake your career on that? You see $800k worth of coaching and game prep today? They had what, 5 weeks to get ready?
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2- if he had a better reputation with offense, I think it would be a worthwhile risk. With his reputation what it is though, I think he needs to at least try for what would appear to be a homerun type of hire.
Thank you.

I could not agree with you more on your point. Muschamp definitely has an earned reputation of having struggling offenses, and that tells me he would be better served going out and getting an established winning OC. My biggest problem is the folks who are acting like there is evidence that McClendon is pretty much guaranteed to fail as an OC here.
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My concern with B Mac is he has no history in the kind of offense Boom wants to run. Georgia and Roper do not run tempo spread offenses. I have no problem with a position coach getting promoted to OC if they have coached in that system and know how to run it.
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Tough decision. Depends on who the outside, interested, candidates are.
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Muschampís MO is that he hires OCs that he can control. That has been a terrible decision time and time again. BMac would be the same kind of hire and could hurt his own career by taking the job. I would rather see us hire outside an allow an OC negotiate the freedom to run the offense autonomously through the hiring process.
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I don't believe BMac would do any worse than Roper did, but would it be much better?

Next year is a favorable schedule and if we don't win at least 8 games I can see fans turning on Muschamp even if the offense is a little better.

BMac definitely wouldn't be a guarantee to fail, however.
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Muschampís MO is that he hires OCs that he can control. That has been a terrible decision time and time again. BMac would be the same kind of hire and could hurt his own career by taking the job. I would rather see us hire outside an allow an OC negotiate the freedom to run the offense autonomously through the hiring process.
I personally think he is more hands off than what you are saying.
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My concern with B Mac is he has no history in the kind of offense Boom wants to run. Georgia and Roper do not run tempo spread offenses. I have no problem with a position coach getting promoted to OC if they have coached in that system and know how to run it.
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Tough decision. Depends on who the outside, interested, candidates are.
Both of these are very fair, good points.

If the best external candidate we can get is someone like Yurcich, then the idea of promoting McClendon should be dead in the water. On the other hand, if it's someone like the OC at North Greenville (no disrespect intended), then it seems like McClendon should get the nod.
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I think Will has a tough decision. If he goes with this gut, Bryan probably gets a promotion. If it backfires, I guess Will could fire & hire again. He'll almost be obligated to give Bryan 2 years to prove something. That's the risk.
Under different circumstances, BMac could be given a shot. There's just little room for error here. We don't have nearly enough talent on offense to let BMac learn on the job. We need a proven offensive mind to come in and figure out how to get the most out of the limited talent we have.

If we had an offense what was humming along, then I could see Champ just promoting from within.

If any of us were in Champ's position, would and of us stake our future as a head coach on hiring BMac?

There's also perception. One of the biggest mistakes Spurrier made was the lazy hire of promoting Ward from within to DC. Obviously a disastrous move. With his history on offense, I think he's gotta show he really vetted the field and got the very best that he could. Promoting BMac wouldn't do that.
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Does BMac leave if he isn’t chosen as OC?
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I don't the he's in the position where he would like automatically leave. It was good for his career long term no matter what.
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Does BMac leave if he isn’t chosen as OC?
Surely he's got to understand that the offense played like garbage for over 3 quarters. I'm sure he wants the job and feels like he can do it, but as a professional coach, he has to understand that the offensive performance today wasn't nearly good enough to earn him the job.

I still say we should go with with a proven OC who could maybe leave after a couple years or so for a HC gig, give BMac a chance to learn the job better and then promote him.
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Under different circumstances, BMac could be given a shot. There's just little room for error here. We don't have nearly enough talent on offense to let BMac learn on the job. We need a proven offensive mind to come in and figure out how to get the most out of the limited talent we have.

If we had an offense what was humming along, then I could see Champ just promoting from within.

If any of us were in Champ's position, would and of us stake our future as a head coach on hiring BMac?

There's also perception. One of the biggest mistakes Spurrier made was the lazy hire of promoting Ward from within to DC. Obviously a disastrous move. With his history on offense, I think he's gotta show he really vetted the field and got the very best that he could. Promoting BMac wouldn't do that.
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I can’t figure out why we run so much inside zone without letting the QB read it. Jake could have had 4-5 big runs on reads if he was allowed to pull it.
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I personally think he is more hands off than what you are saying.
I have folled Muschamp since his days at FLA. I am not saying he dictates to the OC what plays to run, but he has hired OCs who are friendly to his low risk, ball control, style of play. You could even see that today when we went very conservative at the 15 when a touchdown would have sealed the game. We ran 3 times and kicked the FG

I hope he has grown as a coach to realize he needs to give up some control.
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