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Old 01-19-2018, 07:49 AM   #841
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He is undisputed top 10.

USC would be preseason top 20 if Williamson joined.

Not many starting 5ís in the SEC would be as good as Silva, Kotsar, Williamson, Bowen, and Felder.
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I'm still surprised that he's choosing Clemson though. It's as weird as when Ben Simmons chose LSU.
LSU hired Simmons' godfather as an assistant coach, pretty much ensuring they would land him.
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He is undisputed top 10.

USC would be preseason top 20 if Williamson joined.

Not many starting 5ís in the SEC would be as good as Silva, Kotsar, Williamson, Bowen, and Felder.
I would think Top Ten, but a lot will depend on the rest of this season. With a solid finish to this year, Rah and Bowen coming in (I don't think the national media will make a big deal about Rah, but we know he will be good) and then Zion, we would be the likely SEC favorite and very high nationally in the preseason.
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He is undisputed top 10.

USC would be preseason top 20 if Williamson joined.

Not many starting 5ís in the SEC would be as good as Silva, Kotsar, Williamson, Bowen, and Felder.
Izzo, calipari, roy Williams, coach k, Tony Bennett, bill self, lon Kruger, boeheim, Huggins, Jay wright, Bo Ryan, Mike Brey, Steve Fischer, matt painter, mark few, Greg Marshall, Jaime Dixon.

Frank is a good coach, top 25 for sure, and might be equal to a couple of those guys at the end of the list, but you're being a total homer if you say he's undisputed top 10
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I have been wondering what Zion’s motivation is by choosing which school he attends.

Is he looking for an easy work year before going pro?
Is he looking to be coached hard and developed as a player before going pro?
Is he looking to play on a good team with a chance to win a conference championship before going pro?
Is he throwing the school a hype bone before going pro?
Is he just playing for his favorite school?
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Izzo, calipari, roy Williams, coach k, Tony Bennett, bill self, lon Kruger, boeheim, Huggins, Jay wright, Bo Ryan, Mike Brey, Steve Fischer, matt painter, mark few, Greg Marshall, Jaime Dixon.

Frank is a good coach, top 25 for sure, and might be equal to a couple of those guys at the end of the list, but you're being a total homer if you say he's undisputed top 10
Bo Ryan and Steve Fisher are retired. There are some on your list like Brey and Painter that I'm not certain are better than Frank. There are a handful of elite coaches and a very big second tier, which is where I'd have Frank. I don't know if he'd make my top 10 though and it would be very difficult to rank that second tier.
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Any coach that could take this formerly pathetic basketball program to the final four is the greatest coach in basketball history. If he actually won a championship then it would be official.
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What bothers me more than anything else is that if Zion goes to Clemson it might suddenly put them on the map for basketball. Their fans will turn out in droves to watch him play and suddenly the members of the class of 2019 (a lot of local talent that year) will start paying attention. In short, it could have the same effect on basketball as success on the field has had on football. We become the distant second in-state.

Hopefully, we will only have to endure one year.
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He isn't coming here. Just letting people know that now so they don't get pissy tomorrow after he announces. Don't let it be like Thomas and fool yourself into thinking he is coming here.
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What bothers me more than anything else is that if Zion goes to Clemson it might suddenly put them on the map for basketball. Their fans will turn out in droves to watch him play and suddenly the members of the class of 2019 (a lot of local talent that year) will start paying attention. In short, it could have the same effect on basketball as success on the field has had on football. We become the distant second in-state.

Hopefully, we will only have to endure one year.
Maybe. But I haven't watched enough of his AAU/going up against non 5'8" kids with no hops to have an opinion. Could just be a scorer entertaining player. UGA has had a number of those over the years and it has never made them relevant.
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Izzo, calipari, roy Williams, coach k, Tony Bennett, bill self, lon Kruger, boeheim, Huggins, Jay wright, Bo Ryan, Mike Brey, Steve Fischer, matt painter, mark few, Greg Marshall, Jaime Dixon.

Frank is a good coach, top 25 for sure, and might be equal to a couple of those guys at the end of the list, but you're being a total homer if you say he's undisputed top 10
Ryan and Fischer are gone so they don't count.

Painter, Brey, Kruger? LULZ.
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So I’ve read somewhere that Zion had a family member that used to play for Clemson and that might be why he chooses Clemson, if so..
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He is undisputed top 10.

USC would be preseason top 20 if Williamson joined.

Not many starting 5’s in the SEC would be as good as Silva, Kotsar, Williamson, Bowen, and Felder.
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Off the top of my head in no order who I would put ahead of Martin. Martin is good at coaching D, but needs to work on O and recruiting.
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What bothers me more than anything else is that if Zion goes to Clemson it might suddenly put them on the map for basketball. Their fans will turn out in droves to watch him play and suddenly the members of the class of 2019 (a lot of local talent that year) will start paying attention. In short, it could have the same effect on basketball as success on the field has had on football. We become the distant second in-state.

Hopefully, we will only have to endure one year.
People here thought we would ascend to up the basketball hierarchy after we made the Final Four and would start landing 4* and 5* guys left and right. While I do think it will make some difference, one year or one player will not change a program that drastically.
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He is undisputed top 10.

USC would be preseason top 20 if Williamson joined.

Not many starting 5ís in the SEC would be as good as Silva, Kotsar, Williamson, Bowen, and Felder.
Frank Martin is a good coach but he should win some hardware before we start putting him in the elite coach discussion. And I agree that we'd be ranked and have a very good team with Williamson but the poster I replied to said we'd be national favorites, which seems unlikely. There's a lot of schools that get talent like Zion every year and have coaches as good or better than Martin.
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So Iíve read somewhere that Zion had a family member that used to play for Clemson and that might be why he chooses Clemson, if so..

His stepfather, Lee Anderson, played at Clemson.

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"I don't really like it because then some coaches think I'm favoring that school and that they don't have a chance," he said. "When in reality, all I did was just visit the school to see what it's like. And the media just blows it up to, 'Oh, that's his new favorite school.' "
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I love it when players complain about the Media when all they have to do is commit to a school and the media goes away....
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What bothers me more than anything else is that if Zion goes to Clemson it might suddenly put them on the map for basketball. Their fans will turn out in droves to watch him play and suddenly the members of the class of 2019 (a lot of local talent that year) will start paying attention. In short, it could have the same effect on basketball as success on the field has had on football. We become the distant second in-state.

Hopefully, we will only have to endure one year.
They are not getting on the map. Too much apathy for too long and no established support, and they play in a small facility. And football is their entire life.

There will be a little buzz for Zion's only year. Then he will be gone and they will march into Chapel Hill the next year and lose #60. Same old same old.
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Am I right to think that he grew up pulling for Clemson?
I know his step-dad went there but did he actually cheer on the team as a kid?
Did he actually grow up in a 'Clemson household'?
...If that is the case then (as much as I would love him to come here) I would never blame someone for going to the school they grew up loving.
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Am I right to think that he grew up pulling for Clemson?
I know his step-dad went there but did he actually cheer on the team as a kid?
Did he actually grow up in a 'Clemson household'?
...If that is the case then (as much as I would love him to come here) I would never blame someone for going to the school they grew up loving.
I've heard/read he grew up pulling for Duke, but I do not know the accuracy of that statement.
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