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Todd Ellis 88 14.84%
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New thread idea. We are going to vote on the All-Time Gamecock Team. I will start with each position as a poll. First place votes makes first team. Second place makes second.

First up is QB.

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This 'cocky' is my opinion of Ellis. He was like Spring......he came in like a Lion and left like a lamb.......killing the offense with delay of game penalties, crumbling when he heard footsteps. Grantz and Suggs never quit.......Ellis did.
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buzz, I didn't vote for Ellis. This is my impression of him. I once heard a joke. It went something like this:

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\"Yeah, he did. But the bullet was intercepted.\"
That was floating around for quite awhile. Similar to this cartoon of Quincy Carter:

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To me, Ellis was a promise unfulfilled. He started out with such magnitude and left like a rotten plum. Anyway.......of the QBs you mentioned, I still say Grantz and Suggs did the most................Taneyhill wasn't too far behind.
One last thing........can you stand listening to Ellis do the pbp?
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I voted for Petty. My other choices would be Suggs, Grantz and Tanneyhill. I picked Petty mostly because I admired his true desire to win (playing hurt, etc.) and his two New Years Day bowl wins. I also admire Tanneyhill because of his desire to win and, as a college student during his tenure, I truly enjoyed his cockiness.

I can't put Suggs or Grantz on top because I didn't get to see them live.

Ellis gets on my nerves in the booth. I think he is getting better. He has the voice for it, just not the talent or instinct. On a side note, he and I went to law school together. He is a pretty good guy.
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I put Petty also. He was a winner. He was a big difference in the teams the last 3 years and the teams that went to New Years Day bowls. If we would have had him, we would have won a few more games the last 3 years. I think Anthony Wright had the talent, but didn't really start to put it together till the pros.
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i put grantz, because i did get to watch him play, and he was incredible. but i don't understand why you all are talking so much crap about ellis. ellis was an excellent qb, and one of the best in usc history. you all might want to go back and look at the stats. i watched him pick uga apart like a surgeon. also, my second and third choices would be hold and suggs respectively. nobody is is giving mike hold any props, but he was the man in the mid 80's, and don't forget the 84 season. he rarely had good protection, but he could really make it happen!
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snoop, where you been?

I think Ellis was an excellent talent. I just think he made bad decisions. He had a gun of an arm, like no one else at USC (except maybe Anthony Wright). Sure he put up some sick, sick numbers. Unfortunately, it didn't translate to the post-season success that Petty had. That was the ultimate deciding factor for me.
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Alright, here we go. Some numbers to help with the voting:

Career Passing Leader:
Todd Ellis 9,953 yds
Taneyhill 8,782 yds
Anthony Wright 5,681
Phil Petty 5,652
Tommy Suggs 4,916
Bobby Fuller 4,896
Jeff Grantz 3,440
Mike Hold 2,981
Garry Harper 2,971
Ron Bass 2,933

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Taneyhill 473
Taneyhill 451
Ellis 425
Taneyhill 405
Ellis 394
Taneyhill 389

Career Completions
Taneyhill 753
Ellis 747
Phil Petty 454
Anthony Wright 432
Bobby Fuller 373

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Taneyhill 62
Ellis 49
Wright 38
Suggs 34
Petty, Fuller 28
Grantz 26
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i went on another scubadiving trip, and this one took several days away from the pc. i agree with your opinion of ellis, he had the skills, but he did make bad decisions, sometimes. but, he doesn't deserve to be roasted, the way he was being roasted earlier in this thread, when he put up 747 TD's, and almost ten thousand yards! ya know...
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I SAY PETTY! YEAH THE STATS ARE NO COMPARISON AND WE HAD A 17-7 RECORD, PLUS TWO OUTBACK BOWL VICTORIES. I SAY PHIL PETTY!! COULD YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE LAST TWO YRS MIGHT HAD BEEN WITH HIM AT THE HELM.
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Voted Tanneyhill just because I saw him win 3 times in Death Valley and sign the Tiger Paw. Hard not to vote for Grantz or Hold. I never saw Grantz in person and there is little film. From what I've heard and seen he was an awesome scrambler. It was hard not to vote for Hold though. Hold never, never, never quit.
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The problem with Todd was all mental. He was soooo talented he just thought he could make throws he was not capable of making. Also in his defense he did not exactly come in under a great aerial offensive coordinator. He came in under the master of the veer. This did account for a few of Todd's tosses to the wrong jersey. The offense put him in a lot of situations where his only option was to throw back across the field or take the sack and Todd always thought he could make the throw and quite often did. Steve just had that intangible desire that made his feet just quick enough to get away and his pass just high enough to get over the defender. The great thing about this argument is if we have it in 5 or 10 years we will more than likely have several more names and a lot more touchdowns. However I don't think we will ever have another quarterback who can live up to Bobby Fuller's 373 touchdowns much less Tanneyhill's 753???? What is this stat. Could not be career touchdown passes.
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You left off the Strongest, fastest, most talented and best looking Gamecock quarterback of all time. The most popular athlete USC has ever produced, THE BACKUP QB.
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I voted for Tanneyhill but Petty was a very close 2nd.

Petty was my my favorite of All-Time though.

Very little physical skills but a great head, leader, and person.

Won games as championship QB's do
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LOL Booster. The stats didn't get copied over right. 750+ was completions. 62 is touchdowns.
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[quote:e770c3d23e=\"snoopcockycock\"]i went on another scubadiving trip, and this one took several days away from the pc. i agree with your opinion of ellis, he had the skills, but he did make bad decisions, sometimes. but, he doesn't deserve to be roasted, the way he was being roasted earlier in this thread, when he put up 747 TD's, and almost ten thousand yards! ya know...[/quote:e770c3d23e]

Snoopy---I DID blast Ellis..........but, because he had so much potential and let his team and his fans down the older he got............You'd expect a QB to improve with age......he went in reverse......that's the reason a lot of old GC fans don't think too highly of him. I do not wish him ill whatsoever........but, his memory is tarnished by lost timeouts, ints., poor execution, taking dives and hearing the pitter-patter of feet coming near him and him folding like a well used coker seed sack.
I still have respect for what he did accomplish, just not in how he finished.
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I know what you mean Buzz. The potential Todd showed us in that Miami game his freshman year had everyone thinking National Championship and a couple of Heisman's before he left. I do think as I mentioned he never had a good offensive coordinator. To his credit I would put the '87 Cocks against any team we have ever fielded. There were some great throws. We should also remember he had some great receivers. I still say to this day we beat Nebraska.
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Well........with the way the stadium was swaying.....I was surprised the Huskers didn't lay down and give up, thinking it'd fall on them. I was underneath it and scared as a chicken about to be plucked.....
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