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Old 05-20-2015, 09:05 AM   #1
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Frank Martin has set a solid foundation for excellence in place. Each player has obviously been physically developed and improved, he has excellent offensive and defensive schemes in place, he has developed leadership among his upperclassmen, the morale of the team is high, his recruiting ability exceeds anybody's brightest expectations, and he has great relations with the media and fans. He deserves to be rewarded and it is clearly in the best interests of the stability of the program. So where the hell is Ray Tanner on this? Does he know anything at all about what he's doing? We need LEADERSHIP!
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Need wins first.

Also his recruiting is still hit or miss. We are still settling for players late in the process.
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Also his recruiting is still hit or miss. We are still settling for players late in the process.
hmmm...sounds like another coach who recently received a vote of confidence from the AD...all that matters is what the scoreboard says at the end of the game
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In a year where Florida, Tennessee, Miss St, and Bama replaced coaches I don't think we saw many suitors for Martin. The parts are in place to turn a corner next year, if he turns that corner, I am sure that his contract will reflect it. We don't want another "warchest of credibility".
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Like the direction we are going, but even Frank would admit we have not arrived...... yet.
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Gotta win first. Make the NIT at least.
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I'd be ok with giving him a one year extension and upping the buyout on his contract.

But we can gamble on it and pray that his currently low buyout isn't appealing to teams if he does turn it around.
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Also his recruiting is still hit or miss. We are still settling for players late in the process.
His recruiting has been more of a hit, than a miss. There aren't many coaches that could have done any better on the recruiting trail at SC, than what Martin has done.

He had to throw together the first class, but we got Chat, Kacinas and Carrera.

We still have McKie, Notice and Sindarius from the second class. We got Henry, but he didn't handle college life very good. Ringer went to Mercer.

Last years class was something no one could have seen coming. But, we have Stroman and TeMarcus. James Thompson situation was strange and out of character. Sheppard decided to follow Henry down the wrong road. TeMarcus got a freak injury and Stroman missed a month during the season with a throat problem and was very ill. But Stroman proved he belonged and played well for a true freshman. I'm certain if Henry didn't get in trouble and all the other recruits stayed healthy last year, our win loss record would have been a lot better.

Now we get PJ, one of the highest recruits we've ever had. Silva is a four star and proved he can play with some of the best players in this years class. He really took it to Ben Simmons. Then we met our needs with Cobb, Bunch and a very athletic Gregory.

He's done great on the recruiting trail, but has had more than his share of bad luck. Not misses, so to speak, just tough luck.

I think our highest rated classes are ahead of us. Once we get in the Tourney and win a game or two, we'll get even more highly rated recruits and I anticipate this being the year we do just that.
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His recruiting has been more of a hit, than a miss. There aren't many coaches that could have done any better on the recruiting trail at SC, than what Martin has done.

He had to throw together the first class, but we got Chat, Kacinas and Carrera.

We still have McKie, Notice and Sindarius from the second class. We got Henry, but he didn't handle college life very good. Ringer went to Mercer.

Last years class was something no one could have seen coming. But, we have Stroman and TeMarcus. James Thompson situation was strange and out of character. Sheppard decided to follow Henry down the wrong road. TeMarcus got a freak injury and Stroman missed a month during the season with a throat problem and was very ill. But Stroman proved he belonged and played well for a true freshman. I'm certain if Henry didn't get in trouble and all the other recruits stayed healthy last year, our win loss record would have been a lot better.

Now we get PJ, one of the highest recruits we've ever had. Silva is a four star and proved he can play with some of the best players in this years class. He really took it to Ben Simmons. Then we met our needs with Cobb, Bunch and a very athletic Gregory.

He's done great on the recruiting trail, but has had more than his share of bad luck. Not misses, so to speak, just tough luck.

I think our highest rated classes are ahead of us. Once we get in the Tourney and win a game or two, we'll get even more highly rated recruits and I anticipate this being the year we do just that.
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Nah, hasn't earned an extension. Takes a whole lot more than solid foundation, physically developed players and excellent schemes to get an extensions.

It takes wins.
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His recruiting has been more of a hit, than a miss. There aren't many coaches that could have done any better on the recruiting trail at SC, than what Martin has done.

He had to throw together the first class, but we got Chat, Kacinas and Carrera.

We still have McKie, Notice and Sindarius from the second class. We got Henry, but he didn't handle college life very good. Ringer went to Mercer.

Last years class was something no one could have seen coming. But, we have Stroman and TeMarcus. James Thompson situation was strange and out of character. Sheppard decided to follow Henry down the wrong road. TeMarcus got a freak injury and Stroman missed a month during the season with a throat problem and was very ill. But Stroman proved he belonged and played well for a true freshman. I'm certain if Henry didn't get in trouble and all the other recruits stayed healthy last year, our win loss record would have been a lot better.

Now we get PJ, one of the highest recruits we've ever had. Silva is a four star and proved he can play with some of the best players in this years class. He really took it to Ben Simmons. Then we met our needs with Cobb, Bunch and a very athletic Gregory.

He's done great on the recruiting trail, but has had more than his share of bad luck. Not misses, so to speak, just tough luck.

I think our highest rated classes are ahead of us. Once we get in the Tourney and win a game or two, we'll get even more highly rated recruits and I anticipate this being the year we do just that.

I'd argue that Shaw, Theus, Ringer, Sheppard, and eventually McKie weren't worth the scholarships. They were more like sign and pray that they pan out. Sure he has had some bad luck such Tarik Phillip, Thad Hall, and James Thompson not coming due to various reasons. But he is still trying to mine for diamonds in the rough late in the signing process. Its like we are scrambling just to fill spots at the very last minute. We step in late in the game and hope we can get a break.

My point is, I want to see Frank start closing more frequently on his 1st choice guys. I don't mind seeing us taking a late flier or two but I'm hoping going forward that we have our class pretty set before the Spring signing period.

Could be unrealistic given all of the attrition Frank's teams have, idk.
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I'd argue that Shaw, Theus, Ringer, Sheppard, and eventually McKie weren't worth the scholarships. They were more like sign and pray that they pan out. Sure he has had some bad luck such Tarik Phillip, Thad Hall, and James Thompson not coming due to various reasons. But he is still trying to mine for diamonds in the rough late in the signing process. Its like we are scrambling just to fill spots at the very last minute. We step in late in the game and hope we can get a break.

My point is, I want to see Frank start closing more frequently on his 1st choice guys. I don't mind seeing us taking a late flier or two but I'm hoping going forward that we have our class pretty set before the Spring signing period.

Could be unrealistic given all of the attrition Frank's teams have, idk.
I see what you're saying, but he closed great this year on our two biggest targets. Sure we missed on a few, but that's always gonna happen. Most of those guys we missed on, wanted to stay closer to home. Clifford, Sena and Ellison come to mind.

I also think this is part of the BB recruiting landscape these days. A lot of major programs are still going after guys. Two signing periods and sometimes a good player becomes available late in the process, i.e. coaching changes and transfers. Sounds like we could still sign another player this year.

Considering what CFM walked into, I think he's exceeded expectations in recruiting. Hard to get 4 & 5 stars to come play for a cellar dweller that we were.
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He suspended him a year ago, what has he done since then to garner a raise? He is on an upward swing and should parlay that into a raise next year when he makes and wins an NCAA tourney game but he is not worthy yet!

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