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Old 12-23-2016, 02:13 AM   #41
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I feel like you're being a smartass. That is like UNC in football losing out on a 5 star recruit to an out of state school. In basketball we are very similar to NC in football. We'll only change that years down the road after having success.
I think he's referring to Seventh Woods.
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I think he's referring to Seventh Woods.
And the reference holds water in that case. 5* players in SC are going to go out of state more often than not until SC schools start making deep runs in the NCAA Tournament with regularity.
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Old 12-23-2016, 07:43 AM   #43
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I see it the other way - if Dozier is good enough to go pro after his Junior year (I think he needs to wait and put on weight) and is a lottery pick, it proves we can send players (and a local player at that) to the pros and it frees up Williamson to come in and be the man.

What we really need is some NCAA success and good returning talent to play with Williamson. I like the way that Martin is recruiting bigs - we will have two 7 footers and four guys around 6'9", so lots of inside strength to go with Zion at SF/SG. Guards are a little unknown, but Beatty is promising and Felder looks good for a Freshman.

If he can come into a situation where he can do well in the Big Dance in his only year and still be at home.....
Don't forget this guard .

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you can play from Day One if you have talent.
Per a lot of services, he's the #1 player in his class.

He will not have any problems seeing floor time for Kentucky, Duke or UNC.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:07 AM   #45
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I did not forget, just was too lazy to look him up to see if he was going to be a RS Junior or Senior next year. If Holden shows out, Beatty has as much talent as advertised, Gravatt develops (I think Gravatt is a RS Sophomore now, so he will also be a Senior when Williamson arrives), plus Felder as a steady Junior - nice supporting cast at Guard. Just plug Williamson into Dozier's spot when Dozier leaves as a lottery pick, and we have a team that can not just dance, but get to the Final Four.

We will be in the NCAAs this year and next - how well we do will determine whether we can hold on to the local talent. If we can, we will be a perennial power. But Frank will find players anyway - I just prefer the in-sate kids if we can get em.
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Old 12-31-2016, 06:38 PM   #46
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We couldn't pull Peak, Tevin, Seventh, or Devontae. Devontae went to freaking Ole Miss over staying in-state. That's sad. No chance we get Zion who's better than all 3. Dozier's legacy and Lamont Evans helped us get PJ. I think Lamont was also big in getting us Sin too.

Our in-state recruiting on big stars is just so disappointing.
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Old 12-31-2016, 07:29 PM   #47
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Why would we want a 1 and done anyways?
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:52 AM   #48
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Why would we want a 1 and done anyways?
Seriously?
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:57 AM   #49
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We couldn't pull Peak, Tevin, Seventh, or Devontae. Devontae went to freaking Ole Miss over staying in-state. That's sad. No chance we get Zion who's better than all 3. Dozier's legacy and Lamont Evans helped us get PJ. I think Lamont was also big in getting us Sin too.

Our in-state recruiting on big stars is just so disappointing.
for years our program was disappointing. It just now is getting to the point of having appeal. If a UNC or Duke comes calling, it just looks better, until maybe now
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Seriously?
yes seriously. We aren't Kentucky or Duke that pulls in nothing but 5 star athletes every year. What's a 1 and done gonna do to build this program in the long run? After he leaves then what?
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yes seriously. We aren't Kentucky or Duke that pulls in nothing but 5 star athletes every year. What's a 1 and done gonna do to build this program in the long run? After he leaves then what?
After he leaves hopefully he's led us to some success in the NCAA Tournament which makes it easier to recruit. It also makes it easier to recruit when Martin can point to the 1 and done player as a player he has put into the NBA, another recruiting point. 1 and done players can help elevate the program when we are lucky enough to land them. Most of Martin's roster will always be made up of 4 year type players but anytime you can add a huge talent to the roster it's a positive both with that single year's result and with the ability to recruit even better in the future.
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yes seriously. We aren't Kentucky or Duke that pulls in nothing but 5 star athletes every year. What's a 1 and done gonna do to build this program in the long run? After he leaves then what?
Dumbest thing I've ever heard. He makes your team so much better for that one year that it looks more attractive to recruits for the next year or two. You get a couple of those, the program gets better
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I don't think it is dumb at all - who would want a program like UK, UNC, and Duke. All they do is win all the time and go to the Final Four every year. That would get old in a hurry.

Interestingly though, UNC and Duke got treated rudely in their ACC openers, and Coach K is taking a leave of absence. A little more parity in college basketball would be nice.
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I don't think it is dumb at all - who would want a program like UK, UNC, and Duke. All they do is win all the time and go to the Final Four every year. That would get old in a hurry.

Interestingly though, UNC and Duke got treated rudely in their ACC openers, and Coach K is taking a leave of absence. A little more parity in college basketball would be nice.
There's no parity in any of the big 2

But at least in CBB we've seen programs like Butler, George Mason and VCU make the final four
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Rapper Drake wearing Zion's high school jersey. Dang.
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Rapper Drake wearing Zion's high school jersey. Dang.

Since Drake is signed to Jordan Brand, does that mean this is a pitch for Zion to pick UNC?
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Since Drake is signed to Jordan Brand, does that mean this is a pitch for Zion to pick UNC?
Google images of "Drake UNC", then of "Drake Kentucky", and make the comparisons.....
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Short answer -- no.
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Drake is very tight with Coach Calipari, Cal called in another favor. If you're a kid and you see the biggest rapper in the game wearing your jersey, then that's pretty much a wrap.

There's no chance we're getting Zion. He wants to go to a big program that has a history of breeding NBA talent. Kentucky and UNC i think are the favorites, but I'll bet Kentucky gets him.
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Drake is very tight with Coach Calipari, Cal called in another favor. If you're a kid and you see the biggest rapper in the game wearing your jersey, then that's pretty much a wrap.

There's no chance we're getting Zion. He wants to go to a big program that has a history of breeding NBA talent. Kentucky and UNC i think are the favorites, but I'll bet Kentucky gets him.
I'd be surprised if he goes to UNC. They don't typically recruit one and dones like a lot of people say. I'm sure Williams would take him, but I doubt it happens.

I think it'll come down between Duke and Kentucky, with Duke being favored right now. Obviously something like Coach K's health could change things.
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