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Old 01-28-2017, 11:51 PM   #21
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Default Re: Do we lose Dozier next year?

I guarantee you he doesn't go pro after this season. He has much to work on,but he has improved dramatically.
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Old 01-29-2017, 12:06 AM   #22
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Default Re: Do we lose Dozier next year?

We must remember that these are just kids.

His body still needs to fill out with age and make him heavier.

He's also a smart enough kid to finish school here like his dad did.

I think he will be here through graduation.
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Old 01-29-2017, 12:45 AM   #23
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We must remember that these are just kids.

His body still needs to fill out with age and make him heavier.

He's also a smart enough kid to finish school here like his dad did.

I think he will be here through graduation.
I agree that he will probably be here until he graduates, but to say that he is doing that because he doesn't have the skill size or talent is silly.
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I am seeing some chatter about Dozier being a 1st Rounder in the draft. Hate if we lose Thornwell and Dozier next year.
i would like to know who you heard this from because I can't find anything about him being a first rounder
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i would like to know who you heard this from because I can't find anything about him being a first rounder
Take a look at the link I posted earlier in the thread. Projected #22 to OKC as of today. He's moved up mock draft boards.
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Take a look at the link I posted earlier in the thread. Projected #22 to OKC as of today. He's moved up mock draft boards.
dang news to me
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Old 01-29-2017, 02:53 AM   #27
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The big thing to remember is the big difference between football and basketball drafts. In football the entire first 2 rounds you're hoping to get either a QB or immediate impact guys. In basketball once you get towards the back end of the lottery in the 1st round you're looking more for potential and you're not as worried about immediate impact. The latter part of the 1st round isn't generally expected to make huge contributions. If you watch the NBA Draft with an NFL Draft mindset there would be tons of head scratching picks.
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Old 01-29-2017, 03:51 AM   #28
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The big thing to remember is the big difference between football and basketball drafts. In football the entire first 2 rounds you're hoping to get either a QB or immediate impact guys. In basketball once you get towards the back end of the lottery in the 1st round you're looking more for potential and you're not as worried about immediate impact. The latter part of the 1st round isn't generally expected to make huge contributions. If you watch the NBA Draft with an NFL Draft mindset there would be tons of head scratching picks.


Exactly, there's some very interesting approaches during the NBA Draft. Various ways to stash players until they're ready to play in the NBA. Teams like the Spurs and Warriors do a great job finding future talent in the later rounds. So if a guy like PJ gets drafted he'll be granted some time to try to develop.
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Default Re: Do we lose Dozier next year?

At this moment, I would suggest one more year. Needs to fill out frame a little more.
Still much to clean up.... potential is there.....

YES, I hope PJ comes back next year. he would be the leader of our team. Great opportunity for PJ to prove himself.
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Default Re: Do we lose Dozier next year?

I wish the NCAA would have some type of clause that says if you are on scholarship that you must play ball 3 years. I think that gives guys time to develope and mature as a player. I know I maybe the only one on this island of thought, but to me the NBA is getting to young and the play is not worth the price of admission. Just my thought.
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Old 01-29-2017, 01:07 PM   #31
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I wish the NCAA would have some type of clause that says if you are on scholarship that you must play ball 3 years. I think that gives guys time to develope and mature as a player. I know I maybe the only one on this island of thought, but to me the NBA is getting to young and the play is not worth the price of admission. Just my thought.
Your beef is with the NBA's CBA.

I would like to see players stay longer, but it isn't something the NCAA can regulate. If the NCAA were to somehow put a 3 year rule for scholarships (I don't think they can legally do that though), the top players would likely opt to play overseas or in the NBDL for one year until they are eligible for the NBA draft.
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Old 01-29-2017, 03:19 PM   #32
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I wish the NCAA would have some type of clause that says if you are on scholarship that you must play ball 3 years. I think that gives guys time to develope and mature as a player. I know I maybe the only one on this island of thought, but to me the NBA is getting to young and the play is not worth the price of admission. Just my thought.
The NCAA doesn't decide this, the NBA does.
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Old 01-29-2017, 04:13 PM   #33
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Dozier is not ready for the NBA.
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Old 02-11-2017, 11:50 PM   #34
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Dozier is not ready for the NBA.
i just talked to somebody who gauranteed he will be in the nba next october.. looks like he will be gone next year.
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Default Re: Do we lose Dozier next year?

As long as he is sitting at a 1st round pick it's hard to pass up the money. I expect him to make the leap because I expect him to continue to be projected late 1st because he is being projected there on potential and his potential isn't going to change. If he comes back I'll be very happy and very surprised.
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:01 AM   #36
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Completely agree. What is it that people are seeing that makes them think he's ready?
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His family seems to think he'll stay for 4 years. He didn't come to Carolina to play 2 years and leave. Can't flip the program in a short period of time.
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Completely agree. What is it that people are seeing that makes them think he's ready?
I am not asking whether he's bolting for the NBA, I am asking whether he's going to lose his spot in the starting 5. He's been struggling ever since he missed that Kentucky game. Air-balled a free throw tonight and was missing a lot of shots badly, and some of them easy buckets. Hope it's just a slump and no health issues.
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He's a solid player but, and I know all of us say this sort of thing about players we want to keep, he could really benefit from coming back next season. I just think he needs more time learning under Frank before he should even consider the NBA.
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PJ is a bit inconsistent right now offensively, but so was Carrera and Thornwell before their final 1-2 seasons. He's still taken strides forward in improvement over last season.

We do need to hire an instructor for free throws however: I doubt anyone on the staff knows how to coach that. Dozier spends too much time focusing on making his FT attempts rain-inducing tear drops from heaven type shots, and not enough actually paying attention to where the basket is, on his FTs. IMO that's why he shoots air-ball FT attempts. His technique is totally flawed and just plain awful, and his confidence seems to be pretty low on them. He should drop that technique altogether and learn how to shoot a FT like everyone else does, but I guess no one is trying to teach him into stopping...
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