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Old 02-12-2017, 12:53 AM   #41
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Excellent defender. His jumper has improved, has better range, but also some wtf airballs from downtown. Good pullup. As penetrator, only the film will tell if he's good enough there - had some great moments, others where he's failed to finish, overall solid.

He can get better here, but if a team is willing to draft him, ya know ...
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Default Re: Do we lose Dozier next year?

Very few make it in the NBA. He is good, but has a lot of improvement to do, imo. I hope scouts were not watching tonight when he shot an air ball at the free throw line. We wish him the best, no matter what.

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Old 02-12-2017, 01:56 AM   #43
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I heard that his dad would never let him make that decision at this point, fwiw.
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he has the biggest arc on his shots I have ever seen, with the exception of his floaters in the lane. When he shoots a three that thing is a rainbow.
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The Dozier family have been real loyal to the Gamecocks for many years. PJ will stick around at least one more year too improve his game.
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:20 PM   #46
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Very few make it in the NBA. He is good, but has a lot of improvement to do, imo. I hope scouts were not watching tonight when he shot an air ball at the free throw line. We wish him the best, no matter what.

Concur.

I took that FT air ball as a sign that he is still struggling with his back injury.

Frank's system also fails when the bigs cannot/will not do what they are supposed to.

Sin has learned to overcome that with aggression in the paint and behind the arc.

I never have really sensed that PJ has the mentality of someone who would leave early, either.
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he has the biggest arc on his shots I have ever seen, with the exception of his floaters in the lane. When he shoots a three that thing is a rainbow.
Lol yep. Even his free throws have quite the arc on them. I think he stays one more year.
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he has the biggest arc on his shots I have ever seen, with the exception of his floaters in the lane. When he shoots a three that thing is a rainbow.
His shot reminds me of that of Alex English, who had that same arc on his shots.

And by the way, he's not going anywhere. He has more work to do.
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Default Re: Do we lose Dozier next year?

He's gotta learn to shoot first. The way he cups the ball onto his palm is a real problem. Lucky for us, it's a problem that should keep him in school.

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https://www.seccountry.com/sec/nba-m...first-rounders

One has him not in the 1st or 2nd round (top 60) and the other has him 25th (late 1st round).

I think the consensus is that he is on the bubble as to whether he goes in the first round or not.

I think it's a mistake if someone takes him 1st round this year, but we will see how it all plays out.
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One has him not in the 1st or 2nd round (top 60) and the other has him 25th (late 1st round).

I think the consensus is that he is on the bubble as to whether he goes in the first round or not.

I think it's a mistake if someone takes him 1st round this year, but we will see how it all plays out.
Would be a mistake based on NFL Draft philosophies, not NBA Draft philosophies. In the NFL Draft all 1st rounders are drafted to contribute. At the back end of the 1st round in the NBA Draft you're generally drafting either guys that are total boom or bust or guys that's peak potential is 7th or 8th man or even an overseas player to stash there for a few years for salary cap purposes.
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Default Re: Do we lose Dozier next year?

Still too soon for PJ to leave.

He would disappear in an overseas league if he left this year, but could name his team if he finishes out and graduates after a couple of good NCAAT appearances.
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Would be a mistake based on NFL Draft philosophies, not NBA Draft philosophies. In the NFL Draft all 1st rounders are drafted to contribute. At the back end of the 1st round in the NBA Draft you're generally drafting either guys that are total boom or bust or guys that's peak potential is 7th or 8th man or even an overseas player to stash there for a few years for salary cap purposes.
Spot on ,bro. NBA teams like to draft younger players because by the time they enter their prime they would have already adjusted to the learning curve of the pros. That's why we see more Fresh and Soph taken than 4yr players. Buddy Hield and Denzel Valentine were exceptions last year.
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His shot reminds me of that of Alex English, who had that same arc on his shots.

And by the way, he's not going anywhere. He has more work to do.
He doesn't have the same foot quickness English had, though. That guy was unreal in his ability to get to his spots, elevate and finish.
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While this may very well be true. Suppose he stays another year and moves up to #15. How many millions did he lose by leaving early. And from where I sit, he's got a lot to improve on.
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While this may very well be true. Suppose he stays another year and moves up to #15. How many millions did he lose by leaving early. And from where I sit, he's got a lot to improve on.
The difference between #15 and #25 is a bit under $1.5 million over the entirety of the rookie contract. How much does he lose if he comes back and blows out a knee and ends up undrafted? $2.6 million. That works both ways.
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this isnt me slighting him, but i dont think hes a point guard on the next level. i think hes going to have to transition to shooting guard. the transition id like to see in his game if he comes back beyond just becoming better in all areas particularly shooting is a mid post game similar to what thornwell has developed. you want to see him become a bigger matchup problem where if you put a point guard on him okay we'll get him in the post and swing him the ball.
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this isnt me slighting him, but i dont think hes a point guard on the next level. i think hes going to have to transition to shooting guard. the transition id like to see in his game if he comes back beyond just becoming better in all areas particularly shooting is a mid post game similar to what thornwell has developed. you want to see him become a bigger matchup problem where if you put a point guard on him okay we'll get him in the post and swing him the ball.
Correct, I don't think he is a Point Guard at the next level.

Regardless, he needs to do two things. One is to get stronger so he can post up and take it to the rim with authority. The other is to improve his shot - whether you are a point or shooting guard, you need to be able to hit threes and foul shots.

No doubt that he is fading down the stretch and needs to come back to make the big bucks. But that is tough - he sees $ and may not make the right decision. Maybe Thornwell's experience will help to sway Dozier - Thornwell was smart to stick around and could make some decent coin after this season.
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