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Old 04-06-2017, 01:53 PM   #21
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Not a fan of package deals....a player will come to play for you if you promise to sign a sibling. Once you let the player and/or family dictate to you, nothing good comes from it.
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Saw that's this morning. Early word was she wanted to be back closer to home. Still, I would not expect coach Staley to have interest. PG is not a need.

As for McCoy, she played for a coach that allows its guards to just jack up shots. It's all about K. Mitchell at OSU. Maybe she felt she was not being properly developed. However, she is a post. She could play high post, bus she's not a wing. If she's not willing to be a part of something bigger than herself, then I would not want to jeopardize recruiting NaLyssa Smith and Olivia Nelson-Ododa.

LaDazhia Williams is going to be a good one folks. Kiki will be much improved next season and Jennings will be a two year starter.
Kiki is a terrific athlete and has a nice shot; I think she will be a great one.
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Just another form of loyalty. I can dig it. It is up to the program to decide if the tagalong is worth a roster spot.
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Saw that's this morning. Early word was she wanted to be back closer to home. Still, I would not expect coach Staley to have interest. PG is not a need.

As for McCoy, she played for a coach that allows its guards to just jack up shots. It's all about K. Mitchell at OSU. Maybe she felt she was not being properly developed. However, she is a post. She could play high post, bus she's not a wing. If she's not willing to be a part of something bigger than herself, then I would not want to jeopardize recruiting NaLyssa Smith and Olivia Nelson-Ododa.

LaDazhia Williams is going to be a good one folks. Kiki will be much improved next season and Jennings will be a two year starter.
I disagree about Slocum. We don't really need a point guard, but she is not just a good passer, but a big time scorer. She would be a great replacement for Cuevas, and upgrade probably. Rotation of Harris, Slocum, Bradshaw Henderson would be tremendous
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[quote=EAtMoRTaYtErz;4968024]I disagree about Slocum. We don't really need a point guard, but she is not just a good passer, but a big time scorer. She would be a great replacement for Cuevas, and upgrade probably. Rotation of Harris, Slocum, Bradshaw Henderson would be tremendous[/QUOTE

Destanni He derision isn't a similar player. Coach was a PG. She is loyal to her PGs. She has Harris and Bradshaw returning. Henderson is a top 10 player. I just don't see it happening.

Slocum is a great player, no doubt. I just don't see her at SC. Not with the guards we have and players coach is recruiting for 2018 and 2019.
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I disagree about Slocum. We don't really need a point guard, but she is not just a good passer, but a big time scorer. She would be a great replacement for Cuevas, and upgrade probably. Rotation of Harris, Slocum, Bradshaw Henderson would be tremendous[/QUOTE

Destanni He derision isn't a similar player. Coach was a PG. She is loyal to her PGs. She has Harris and Bradshaw returning. Henderson is a top 10 player. I just don't see it happening.

Slocum is a great player, no doubt. I just don't see her at SC. Not with the guards we have and players coach is recruiting for 2018 and 2019.
Slocum is a proven scorer. Which is something we always need. Slocum is two years ahead of Henderson. I don't think Dawn would think its not showing loyalty to players just because they have competition. I don't imagine she would not want to get the best talent we could get here let them compete against each other in practice for playing time. Our should I say, who's destiny is brighter lol?
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The Dixons were on the all-time best Shrine Bowl D Line - held NC to under 100 yards total offense - and were worth scholarships on their own. That was proven on the field as both started a bunch of games. One Dixon went to a different school even - the Dixons were better examples of legacy recruits, which is a different animal.
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I disagree about Slocum. We don't really need a point guard, but she is not just a good passer, but a big time scorer. She would be a great replacement for Cuevas, and upgrade probably. Rotation of Harris, Slocum, Bradshaw Henderson would be tremendous[/QUOTE

Destanni He derision isn't a similar player. Coach was a PG. She is loyal to her PGs. She has Harris and Bradshaw returning. Henderson is a top 10 player. I just don't see it happening.

Slocum is a great player, no doubt. I just don't see her at SC. Not with the guards we have and players coach is recruiting for 2018 and 2019.
Not sure why you see Bradshaw as a factor. She's the third PG at best and I don't think she is a major factor in roster building decisions.
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Not sure why you see Bradshaw as a factor. She's the third PG at best and I don't think she is a major factor in roster building decisions.
Yeah, don't see a lot of PT for Bradshaw with Harris firmly entrenched in that role. But you never know - she does have talent and can approve if she works hard.

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Yeah, don't see a lot PT for Bradshaw with Harris firmly entrenched in that role. But you never know - she does have talent and can approve if she works hard.
That's my point. Harris is entrenched as the starter. Bradshaw will be a very capable backup until Destanni Henderson arrives. There's really no need for Slocum. I just don't see Dawn recruiting Slocum. Harris is entrenched and Henderson is committed. Why risk losing Henderson?

I would be elated if Dawn did land Slocum. I just don't think that's how she operates. Player loyalty matters to her.
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She's not that fit. She still has a kid's body. I think she has potential to be like a Jaime Nared kind of player but she she needs conditioning and coaching.
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That's my point. Harris is entrenched as the starter. Bradshaw will be a very capable backup until Destanni Henderson arrives. There's really no need for Slocum. I just don't see Dawn recruiting Slocum. Harris is entrenched and Henderson is committed. Why risk losing Henderson?

I would be elated if Dawn did land Slocum. I just don't think that's how she operates. Player loyalty matters to her.
Slocum's ability to score a lot of points is definitely something that would help us greatly. It's not about her being a point guard. Henderson is likely going to be a great player. But when you commit to National Contender you do are not entitled to start as a freshman just because you are highly rated coming out of high school. Bradshaw was also pretty highly rated coming out of high school, almost as high as Harris and she will have been in the system 2 years when 2018 starts so she deserves some respect and not act like its a forgone conclusion that Henderson will start over Bradshaw. Alaina Coates and A'Ja Wilson both came off the bench for 2 years for crying out loud. Dawn LIKES to play a lot of players and keep them fresh. She is not Geno Auerimma. I am not going to act like I know what she is thinking but I would not be shocked to hear we are recruiting Slocum if she is interested.
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Slocum's ability to score a lot of points is definitely something that would help us greatly. It's not about her being a point guard. Henderson is likely going to be a great player. But when you commit to National Contender you do are not entitled to start as a freshman just because you are highly rated coming out of high school. Bradshaw was also pretty highly rated coming out of high school, almost as high as Harris and she will have been in the system 2 years when 2018 starts so she deserves some respect and not act like its a forgone conclusion that Henderson will start over Bradshaw. Alaina Coates and A'Ja Wilson both came off the bench for 2 years for crying out loud. Dawn LIKES to play a lot of players and keep them fresh. She is not Geno Auerimma. I am not going to act like I know what she is thinking but I would not be shocked to hear we are recruiting Slocum if she is interested.
For me, getting Slocum is about having options, not loyalty to one player over the other. If Colley did not transfer we would have been splitting the PG duties between four people.

Secondly, I'm looking at this from an efficiency standpoint. Harris had about 115 assists despite only starting a portion of the season. Putting her with Slocum who had 200+ assists(for Maryland top 5 in every offensive category) could only help us offensively. Now, throw in Henderson who seems to be a slasher, however, since she was heavily recruited by both Maryland and Notre Dame I will give her the benefit of the doubt that she can run an offense. These three playing off of each other would be a special treat.
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For me, getting Slocum is about having options, not loyalty to one player over the other. If Colley did not transfer we would have been splitting the PG duties between four people.

Secondly, I'm looking at this from an efficiency standpoint. Harris had about 115 assists despite only starting a portion of the season. Putting her with Slocum who had 200+ assists(for Maryland top 5 in every offensive category) could only help us offensively. Now, throw in Henderson who seems to be a slasher, however, since she was heavily recruited by both Maryland and Notre Dame I will give her the benefit of the doubt that she can run an offense. These three playing off of each other would be a special treat.
I don't see the issue in playing two point guards - and by playing, I mean starting them together.

Also Slocum is a lot better than Bradshaw and Bradshaw has not really played.

Not upsetting a recruit, I can see if that is an issue, but don't see why it would be.

Of the transfers out there so far, I think Vandy graduate guard Rebekah Dahlman is interesting.
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I don't care who starts and who doesn't. That is Dawn's decision. I think Slocum probably wants to head west to be closer to home. But if Slocum wants to play for us, we are not going to say no to a player who was one of the top freshman in the country this year. Slocum would have an edge over Bradshaw likely, but Bradshaw has another year to show what she can do and win Staley's favor. The year after Cuevas would be gone. That leaves us with Harris, Bradshaw and true Freshman Henderson. Pecking order likely would be 1.Harris 2. Bradshaw, 3.Henderson. Throw Slocum into the mix who knows what they order would be. As good as Henderson is, and she will be a great one, you can expect her to be at the bottom of the order in her first year.
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I don't care who starts and who doesn't. That is Dawn's decision. I think Slocum probably wants to head west to be closer to home. But if Slocum wants to play for us, we are not going to say no to a player who was one of the top freshman in the country this year. Slocum would have an edge over Bradshaw likely, but Bradshaw has another year to show what she can do and win Staley's favor. The year after Cuevas would be gone. That leaves us with Harris, Bradshaw and true Freshman Henderson. Pecking order likely would be 1.Harris 2. Bradshaw, 3.Henderson. Throw Slocum into the mix who knows what they order would be. As good as Henderson is, and she will be a great one, you can expect her to be at the bottom of the order in her first year.
I think you are putting Bradshaw on the depth chart simply because she's on the roster.

I see Bradshaw as being somewhat similar to Tiffany Davis.

I don't know a ton about Henderson, but I would imagine based on her ratings that she would immediately win the backup job.
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Of the transfers out there so far, I think Vandy graduate guard Rebekah Dahlman is interesting.[/QUOTE]

Dahlman would be a nice addition. She shot around 44% from 3 point range for her Vandy career. With Balcomb running whatever offensive plays for her to get open looks this could work. Will she be considered as redshirt senior, or a graduate transfer, and does she have to sit out regardless?
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