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Old 04-19-2017, 08:52 PM   #101
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Something tells me this move was made because we may be in line for the SEC vs. ACC in Atlanta. Anyone thought of that. This move was not just to get out of a game or because we didn't want to play ECU. There is an end game to all of this and the end game is money.
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First off, let's agree that we're not contending for a national title anytime soon.

Having agreed on that, what matters most is how we do in the SEC, so a potential game one loss to a strong OOC opponent doesn't really affect our season that much.

If by some fluke chance we had run the table, the Clemson game is our last game of the regular season. If we lose that game, that knocks us out of the playoffs anyway.
The problem is that if you aren't ready to compete for a National Title, then why on Earth would you add more tough teams on your schedule when you don't need a strength of schedule boost?

I also disagree that losing your first game can have a HUGE impact on your season as young players lose confidence right out of the gate.

Sorry, but the SEC + Clemson are tough enough, absolutely no reason to add to that, especially not with a less than elite Gamecock team.
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First off, let's agree that we're not contending for a national title anytime soon.

Having agreed on that, what matters most is how we do in the SEC, so a potential game one loss to a strong OOC opponent doesn't really affect our season that much.

If by some fluke chance we had run the table, the Clemson game is our last game of the regular season. If we lose that game, that knocks us out of the playoffs anyway.
Nah. You go thru the SEC regular season undefeated, lose to Clemson, & go on to win the SEC Championship you'd be in 95% of the time. You'd have the best record in the SEC & be SEC Champs. Might even get in with two losses if you're SEC Champs. Just depends of what other teams are doing. Hell Clemson lost to Pitt & at the end almost everyone, if not everyone, knew they were in.

I do agree strongly that we've got lots of work to do before seriously worrying about that scenario.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:49 PM   #104
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Why on earth are some Gamecock 'fans' freaking out about a game being cancelled all the way in 2019 against freaking ECU!!?! Like....... MAN I just can't wait for that EAST CAROLINA game three years from now!!! What on earth will I do between now and then because the game against the MIGHTY Pirates is so important and something to look forward to... I was planing on skipping my child's birth for it!! Lol, freaking out like someone just cancelled their season premier of the Kardashians!!!!!!!

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Something tells me this move was made because we may be in line for the SEC vs. ACC in Atlanta. Anyone thought of that. This move was not just to get out of a game or because we didn't want to play ECU. There is an end game to all of this and the end game is money.
We're playing UNC in Charlotte in 2019.
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Something tells me this move was made because we may be in line for the SEC vs. ACC in Atlanta. Anyone thought of that. This move was not just to get out of a game or because we didn't want to play ECU. There is an end game to all of this and the end game is money.
We play UNC in Charlotte that year.

So another one? 3 ACC teams in one year?
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:51 AM   #107
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Something tells me this move was made because we may be in line for the SEC vs. ACC in Atlanta. Anyone thought of that. This move was not just to get out of a game or because we didn't want to play ECU. There is an end game to all of this and the end game is money.
I thought so too, but we play UNC in Charlotte in 2019. No way we get out of that one. Our out of conference schedule will be UNC, Clemson, and probably a Troy or South Alabama-level team.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:03 AM   #108
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That's a big dose of no confidence in our coaches and players to think we would get beaten by East Carolina two years from now. This program but in 2019? No way....absolutely no way. That cannot be the reason we pulled out.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:36 AM   #109
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I said "A" big name opponent. You cited 2 games for Ok St. Also, the CMU game hurt Ok St more than anything else (unfair or not).
We play Clemson, that is your big opponent on the OOC schedule for the foreseeable future. Just because we play them every year doesn't make then a conference opponent so our OOC schedule is tough enough. And I was talking about Oklahoma not State, Oklahoma ran the table in conference while beating OKST and was left out due to 2 OOC losses to quality competition which is what you were asking what is the worst that could happen. If scheduling was more immediate like in basketball where you schedule in the off-season before the season starts I may have a different view but if you have to schedule 3/4 years in advance give me Clemson and 3 teams we should steamroll.
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First off, let's agree that we're not contending for a national title anytime soon.

Having agreed on that, what matters most is how we do in the SEC, so a potential game one loss to a strong OOC opponent doesn't really affect our season that much.

If by some fluke chance we had run the table, the Clemson game is our last game of the regular season. If we lose that game, that knocks us out of the playoffs anyway.
With 1 loss to Clemson in your scenario we'd still be very much alive in the CFP if we won the SEC Title Game. If you add into your scenario a 2nd loss to an OOC opponent that year then we're dead in the water. As for not contending for a title anytime soon, the big OOC games get schedule years and years in advance to where we won't know what either team's roster would look like. I'll take my chances scheduling the weak teams and racking up 3 guaranteed wins. If your SOS is already strong enough to make it into the CFP based on yearly opponents as long as you take care of business, which ours is, you don't go scheduling other insane games that give you extra chance to slip up.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:50 AM   #111
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We pulled out to get 7 home games, pure and simple.

ECU would be tough on their home field but we almost always beat them, and often easily. I remember when that was not the case, but those days seem to be over.

Clemson, two mid-majors, one FCS team, rinse and repeat. The SEC is tough and will get tougher - remember that we had three 1st year coaches in the East and a 2nd year guy, so those teams will improve as the programs get deeper into the new coaches' regimes. Well, maybe not UF - they had a stacked deck when McElwain got there, and it remains to be seen if he can re-establish the Offense and/or maintain the Defense.
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We play Clemson, that is your big opponent on the OOC schedule for the foreseeable future. Just because we play them every year doesn't make then a conference opponent so our OOC schedule is tough enough. And I was talking about Oklahoma not State, Oklahoma ran the table in conference while beating OKST and was left out due to 2 OOC losses to quality competition which is what you were asking what is the worst that could happen. If scheduling was more immediate like in basketball where you schedule in the off-season before the season starts I may have a different view but if you have to schedule 3/4 years in advance give me Clemson and 3 teams we should steamroll.
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Lol at these responses about good we would lose that game. It's 3 seasons away for goodness sakes! Please don't tell me some of you believe that we cancelled because we are scared.
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:27 AM   #115
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I am glad that the city of Columbia and all of its small and large businesses will be able to enjoy the extra profits and tax generation. Also great that our fans will get another day to tailgate.
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My guess is that 90%+ of the people calling for us to play "one of the big boys"

1) aren't season ticket holders.
2) don't travel to away games
3) complain about the price of tickets once games are scheduled
4) complain that the "working man" has been priced out of college football.
5) see 1-2 games a year and choose games like Wofford because the tickets are nearly free, and then create a lot of threads with titles like "Where is the least expensive Place to Park" or "Why Can't i park at the Roundhouse anymore?"
6) Post a ton of links to stories by SEC Country.
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My guess is that 90%+ of the people calling for us to play "one of the big boys"

1) aren't season ticket holders.
2) don't travel to away games
3) complain about the price of tickets once games are scheduled
4) complain that the "working man" has been priced out of college football.
5) see 1-2 games a year and choose games like Wofford because the tickets are nearly free, and then create a lot of threads with titles like "Where is the least expensive Place to Park" or "Why Can't i park at the Roundhouse anymore?"
Haha funny.

I have season tickets and I would still love to see a home and home with SoCal. (Yes I know that will never happen)



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First off, let's agree that we're not contending for a national title anytime soon.

Having agreed on that, what matters most is how we do in the SEC, so a potential game one loss to a strong OOC opponent doesn't really affect our season that much.

If by some fluke chance we had run the table, the Clemson game is our last game of the regular season. If we lose that game, that knocks us out of the playoffs anyway.
We were a 6 win team last year. If that trend continues, though hopefully it won't, an easy game vs a difficult one could be the difference between us going to a bowl at the end of the year and our season ending Thanksgiving weekend. It was just two years ago we were sitting home. Within the lifetimes of most everyone on this board we were at a point where yearly we were just hoping to win 6 and maybe beat Clemson. Let's not take our more recent success for granted.
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We were a 6 win team last year. If that trend continues, though hopefully it won't, an easy game vs a difficult one could be the difference between us going to a bowl at the end of the year and our season ended Thanksgiving weekend. It was just two years ago we were sitting home. Within the lifetimes of most everyone on this board we were at a point where yearly we were just hoping to win 6 and maybe beat Clemson. Let's not take our more recent success for granted.
3 years ago we were a top 10 team. We have no idea where we will be in 3 years. Maybe a national powerhouse. Maybe we're coming off a winless season searching for a new coach. This clearly isn't about gauging whether we can beat ECU in 3 years.
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