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Old 04-19-2017, 11:31 AM   #1
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Ok, another thread got me thinking about burgers and best places to get them.
But most of the best ones I've ever had were at cookouts with friends and family.

It's pretty obvious from other threads that there are some damn good cooks on this board...

So if you had to make a burger from scratch to impress someone you respect, how would you do it?

Stovetop, oven or grill?
Charcoal or Gas?
How much lean to fat percent? All beef, or some other animal?
What seasoning or sauces would you use?
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I like to keep it simple.
80/20 angus on a charcoal grill seasoned with just salt and pepper
Serve with sweet potato fries covered in cinnamon
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Mostly use 80/20 meat. On a flattop or one the grill can both be great. salt, pepper and garlic on outside of patty before cooking. Usually make them thick, never press them down while cooking. Buns need to be buttered and lightly toasted on flattop. Several ways I like mine: 1)American cheese, mayo ketchup, lettuce, slice of raw onion. 2) No cheese, mayo, horse radish, lettuce. 3) BBq sauce while finishing cooking, slice of raw onion. 4) Cheese, relish, mayo ketchup. 5)grilled onions, grilled green peppers, grilled mushrooms, Swiss cheese. 6) American cheese, chili no beans, and slaw. Always fries or onion rings and a beer
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Grind your own burger meat, I use a mix of chuck roast, top roast, and brisket cut into 1" cubes. I also fry up some bacon roast a few cloves of garlic and caramelize onions to grind up with the meat, then I let it all sit over night. Shape it out into nice thick patty's allow them to warm up a little bit (so they brown and not turn gray) hit em with fresh ground salt and cracked black pepper and put em on a hot grill. Cook to medium rare, and melt some good cheese on top. For the buns I like to use good buns from a bakery, brioche, pretzle, you name it, a little butter and toast em up on the grill. I also salt and pepper the buns after putting mayo/aioli/whatever on them.
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I also salt and pepper the buns after putting mayo/aioli/whatever on them.
That's interesting...never thought to do that.
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That's interesting...never thought to do that.
Yeah, I saw it done on a cooking show so I tried it, and it really does improve the burger. Try it next time.
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I never add anything to the meat other than a little salt and pepper. Don't over work it either. Just bring it into a ball, mash it down into a patty, and cook away. If your patties are exceptionally loose, place them onto a half sheet pan and into the freezer to firm up (not freeze). Slap some colby/jack cheese on them once they're close to done. Then it's lettuce and tomato, Heinz 57, and french fried potatoes.

Normally my burgers are on the thicker side with lots of juiciness dribbling down your chin as you savor each scrumptuous bite. However I'm going to try replicating the smash burger technique next time for super thin patties to see how that goes.
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Agree with grind your own beef. I use sirloin and grind it with bacon 1/2 lb bacon to 2 lb beef ratio. Cook it on a flat top, with a nice char that will crisp up the bacon on the outside. Grilled onions and either anaheim chilis or jalapenos. Add homemade or DiPrado's Pimento cheese and let it melt a bit. If you really want a mess add a little chili. A few bread and butter pickles. The key, learn to make a good hamburger bun or find a bakery that does. This makes or breaks a burger. If it's summer a slice of great tomato. I make a homemade jerk sauce a little hotter than pickapeppa and mix that with a little mayo to use on the bun.
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As others, I usually just use 80/20 at the leanest; need some fat for flavor.

I add oatmeal (something my Dad used to do - said it helped hold the meat together; and hey, oatmeal is good for you, right?) - you don't even taste it. Add a couple of eggs - I have chickens and therefore tons of eggs - gotta use them up somehow. I like adding teriyaki if I have it, maybe a splash of Dale's, and little salt-n-pepper. Then, my favorite ingredient of all of them - finely diced jalapeno!
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As others, I usually just use 80/20 at the leanest; need some fat for flavor.

I add oatmeal (something my Dad used to do - said it helped hold the meat together; and hey, oatmeal is good for you, right?) - you don't even taste it. Add a couple of eggs - I have chickens and therefore tons of eggs - gotta use them up somehow. I like adding teriyaki if I have it, maybe a splash of Dale's, and little salt-n-pepper, and, my favorite ingredient of all of them - finely diced jalapeno!
Fry one of those eggs up and put it on top of the burger!
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Grind your own burger meat, I use a mix of chuck roast, top roast, and brisket cut into 1" cubes. I also fry up some bacon roast a few cloves of garlic and caramelize onions to grind up with the meat, then I let it all sit over night. Shape it out into nice thick patty's allow them to warm up a little bit (so they brown and not turn gray) hit em with fresh ground salt and cracked black pepper and put em on a hot grill. Cook to medium rare, and melt some good cheese on top. For the buns I like to use good buns from a bakery, brioche, pretzle, you name it, a little butter and toast em up on the grill. I also salt and pepper the buns after putting mayo/aioli/whatever on them.
Cooking ground meat medium rare is always a tricky play. It has more surface area to grow bacteria and not cooking it through won't kill it all. Usually if you do it yourself, you're good, but still tricky.
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Cooking ground meat medium rare is always a tricky play. It has more surface area to grow bacteria and not cooking it through won't kill it all. Usually if you do it yourself, you're good, but still tricky.
I generally use a thermometer to about 150-ish so, I guess closer to medium than medium rare, but still plenty pink and juicy.
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I generally use a thermometer to about 150-ish so, I guess slightly above medium rare, but still plenty pink and juicy.
That's about where I cook mine. Probably more medium to medium well. I've never gotten sick from ground beef not being cooked through, but have heard of it.
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Most contaminated beef comes from the processing plants. Where one bad cow will infect loads and loads of ground beef run through the grinder. That's why steaks you are good eating rare since it does not go through the grinder with everything else.

I suspect if you grind your own or use a good quality butcher shop it will be fine.
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If you get it from the grocery store already done you wan to cook it thoroughly, in Carolina_Corpsman place he grinds up his meat, so going medium rare is ok for him.
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