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Old 04-26-2017, 09:36 PM   #21
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Hinson is not on BB scholarship and has absolutely no bearing on bringing in another scholarship player. Apparently one of our current scholarship players won't be with the team next season.
Who is leaving? Frank said no one has told him they are leaving. If anyone wanted to leave, its likely they would have decided that by now. Frank might ask someone to leave, we'll see.
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Who is leaving? Frank said no one has told him they are leaving. If anyone wanted to leave, its likely they would have decided that by now. Frank might ask someone to leave, we'll see.
He stated that a couple of guys were not acting like they wanted to be here, and that we could guess who they were.

Tut would be my first guess, then maybe Blanton for health reasons. Keita, Gueye and Gravatt were a little underwhelming this year, but you can make a case for each of them sticking around - Keita is a talent with height and was hurt, Gueye is 7' and was always going to need a couple of years, Gravatt is potentially a good scorer at a position of need.
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Old 04-27-2017, 12:05 AM   #23
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He stated that a couple of guys were not acting like they wanted to be here, and that we could guess who they were.

Tut would be my first guess, then maybe Blanton for health reasons. Keita, Gueye and Gravatt were a little underwhelming this year, but you can make a case for each of them sticking around - Keita is a talent with height and was hurt, Gueye is 7' and was always going to need a couple of years, Gravatt is potentially a good scorer at a position of need.
That's not exactly what Frank said. He said he has a problem with a couple of guys. He did not say what that problem is. From his comments, it did not seem to me to be a situation where someone wanted to leave. It could be that Frank wants them to leave, and he might ask them to do that, but we don't know. We don't know what kind of problem he has with them. He did say it did not involve talent and playing ball on the court. Probably means they aren't doing things off the court the way Frank wants, or maybe an attitude problem. I wish we knew what it is.
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That's not exactly what Frank said. He said he has a problem with a couple of guys. He did not say what that problem is. From his comments, it did not seem to me to be a situation where someone wanted to leave. It could be that Frank wants them to leave, and he might ask them to do that, but we don't know. We don't know what kind of problem he has with them. He did say it did not involve talent and playing ball on the court. Probably means they aren't doing things off the court the way Frank wants, or maybe an attitude problem. I wish we knew what it is.
Frank keeps things under wraps, like with Sin's suspension. But a player can look talented on the court to the average fan but not be working hard in practice and focusing on Defense, so that is how I took it. He also intimated that the fans could figure it out, which would not be the case if it was off-court issues.

I would be very surprised if Tut came back, whatever the problem is. And if we are still recruiting hard, someone else may be on thin ice.
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Well, he would be Plan C as far as graduate transfers is concerned. Wouldn't consider him a critical get.
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Well, he would be Plan C as far as graduate transfers is concerned. Wouldn't consider him a critical get.
I think he would be plan A as far as grad transfers we actually have a chance to get . And vbcock's stats are correct - he was .387 on 3-pointers and .846 from the free-throw line last season . Seems like a pretty good shooter to me .
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Well, he would be Plan C as far as graduate transfers is concerned. Wouldn't consider him a critical get.
You do realize how many quality grad transfers there are every year now don't you? He is most definitely a critical get.
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You do realize how many quality grad transfers there are every year now don't you? He is most definitely a critical get.
X2. Not as much a critical get as he is the critical get. Add him in with Holden and Beatty, and we are not rebuilding, we have already been rebuilt. NCAA, here we come.

Our need is for a big guard with experience because we just lost 3. This guy is about as close as you can get to Sin - he rebounds, hands out assists, scores, and shoots from outside.
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Who is leaving? Frank said no one has told him they are leaving. If anyone wanted to leave, its likely they would have decided that by now. Frank might ask someone to leave, we'll see.
I don't know that anyone is leaving but the way Frank is recruiting it appears someone on scholarship won't be back. The point I made about Hinson not being a factor on bringing in another player is the fact he is a BB walk-on. He is on a football scholarship and does not count toward our BB scholarship limit.
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You do realize how many quality grad transfers there are every year now don't you? He is most definitely a critical get.
Well, I guess you are right, since we missed on the first 2 that we really wanted.
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I looked at the roster not long ago, and while I am not 100% certain who is on scholarship it looked to me like we were at 13 not including PJ. So someone else has to go off scholarship. Also, if I remember correctly, you can put a player on some sort of medical status with a scholarship which allows him to finish school but does not count against the scholarship limit. If that is right then my guess is Blanton won't play basketball next year.
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I looked at the roster not long ago, and while I am not 100% certain who is on scholarship it looked to me like we were at 13 not including PJ. So someone else has to go off scholarship. Also, if I remember correctly, you can put a player on some sort of medical status with a scholarship which allows him to finish school but does not count against the scholarship limit. If that is right then my guess is Blanton won't play basketball next year.
Returning:
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4. Gueye
5. Tut
6. Kotstar
7. Blanton
8. Holden (Transfer)
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So, someone should be transferring as you said. Frank hinted at that in his presser a few weeks ago.
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Returning:
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7. Blanton
8. Holden (Transfer)
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12. Haase
13. Cudd

So, someone should be transferring as you said. Frank hinted at that in his presser a few weeks ago.

Frank was asked this week by a reporter if anyone was leaving the program. He said he didn't know of anyone. If one or two more join the team for next year, that is going to create a problem about who is on scholarship. I'm sure Frank has something in mind about how to handle that, but I don't know what that would be.
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It's obvious people are leaving which is why Frank is about to sign Minaya and possibly get Alstork. I feel like Alstork is going to Louisville now though. I think in the end two current players will leave, we will add Minaya, and save scholarship for 2018
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It's obvious people are leaving which is why Frank is about to sign Minaya and possibly get Alstork. I feel like Alstork is going to Louisville now though. I think in the end two current players will leave, we will add Minaya, and save scholarship for 2018
Then why did Frank deny anyone is leaving? He knows what the scholarship numbers are. And he knows if nobody comes off scholarship, there are none to give right now. Yet, he is recruiting two guys. I find it hard to believe he is not aware that current players will leave, if someone is leaving. And if he knows some will, why did he deny it to reporters just this week?
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Then why did Frank deny anyone is leaving? He knows what the scholarship numbers are. And he knows if nobody comes off scholarship, there are none to give right now. Yet, he is recruiting two guys. I find it hard to believe he is not aware that current players will leave, if someone is leaving. And if he knows some will, why did he deny it to reporters just this week?
He's probably trying to get the commitment from someone before he boots a player from the team.
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He's probably trying to get the commitment from someone before he boots a player from the team.
If that is the case, then why not tell reporters that he isn't sure right now whether someone is leaving? Frank is usually very honest about things.

Assuming Frank was being honest with the reporter, the only thing I can deduce is that, if he signs someone, either Blanton will come off a basketball scholarship and go on a medical one, or someone will not be on scholarship next year. They will be on the team, but not on a scholarship. If there is another possibility, I'd like to hear about it.
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