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Old 06-28-2018, 10:56 AM   #621
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Sure, anything is possible I suppose but Steele himself is quoted as saying 'it isn't true. Fake news. That site is just looking for web traffic.' He strongly refuted the report to Hilinski personally. So you have two different reports/'sources' that you can chose to believe. I can understand your cynicism ideology, but for now I'll trust the guy busting his ass recruiting and willing to go on record. Unlike the other source.

I have not seen either of those things. I have only seen his tweet: "Mute all false speculation." Yes, yours is a possible interpretation. but there are many other possibilities.


He also got pizzed at one of our reporters for releasing a possibly false report after visiting us.
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I have not seen either of those things. I have only seen his tweet: "Mute all false speculation." Yes, yours is a possible interpretation. but there are many other possibilities.


He also got pizzed at one of our reporters for releasing a possibly false report after visiting us.
Heard it on my drive home yesterday so I really don't have the sound byte on hand. I'm sure others heard the interview, too. Hilinski is at a camp right now and they were asking him questions and the Steele situation is one of them. Maybe there will be a write-up coming out today or in the next few days.

Hilinski and Steele are friends, I heard Hilinski state this first-hand as did anyone else tuned into local sports/ESPN radio yesterday around 6:30P. The pay sites aren't the sole source of info these days.
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Interesting note for you guys.

Dwan Mathis, the Michigan State QB commitment that we offered that spurned up the Hilinski heart burn, switched to Ohio State.
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Interesting note for you guys.

Dwan Mathis, the Michigan State QB commitment that we offered that spurned up the Hilinski heart burn, switched to Ohio State.
Tate Martell must not be lighting the world on fire over there.
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Curtis Fann just got a CB flip to Gamecocks from Rusty Mansell
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I have read this thread since the last post where we were ranked number 4, and I've not read any reason why we fell so far. So I want to know how the hell did we fall from #4 to #15?????????? I am stunned to see today that we had recently dropped to number 15, and I have no idea why. Even moving back up to 11 with mullins, it's still a kick in the gut. Please someone explain to me what happened.
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I have read this thread since the last post where we were ranked number 4. So I want to know how the hell did we fall from #4 to #15?????????? I am at a complete loss on this, and what a bummer it is. Even moving back up to 11 with mullins, it's still a kick in the gut. Please someone explain to me what happened.
Rankings were updated on non-247 sites and also other schools received commitments.

If you thought this class was going to stay in the Top 5-10 then you don't understand how the point system works.

Points wise, USC will finish around 15 when its all said and done unless they pull in a big fish like Crouch or Walker.
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Rankings were updated on non-247 sites and also other schools received commitments.

If you thought this class was going to stay in the Top 5-10 then you don't understand how the point system works.

Points wise, USC will finish around 15 when its all said and done unless they pull in a big fish like Crouch or Walker.
I could understand us falling a few spots because of adjustments or other teams gaining commitments. But NOT eleven spots! I don't see great numbers of other teams, so different than a week or so ago.
And yes, sitting at number four, with the knowledge that we were in good with several other high ranking players, I did believe that we could remain a top ten team. I maybe didn't believe we would stay in the top five, but definitely in the top ten. Coach boom has a reputation for top ten classes. So yes, I did, and still do think we can be top ten. But I can't imagine loosing 11 spots in such a short time bc other teams received some commits. Did a bunch of our commits get demoted drastically? Wow!

And I must not understand the point system, because I definitely can NOT see how TAMU {1-7-8}has almost the exact same line of stars as we do {1-6-8}, except for one more four star, and they are ranked 2, while we are 11 with a higher overall star average????????? Then there's clemscum and miami, Miami {0-7-9} is ranked 12, where clemscum {0-7-10} is ranked 4, with one more three star player. That is a bs system. It looks totally political, and little to do with the actual talent of the players. So no, I don't get it...
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I could understand us falling a few spots because of adjustments or other teams gaining commitments. But NOT eleven spots! I don't see great numbers of other teams, so different than a week or so ago.
And yes, sitting at number four, with the knowledge that we were in good with several other high ranking players, I did believe that we could remain a top ten team. I maybe didn't believe we would stay in the top five, but definitely in the top ten. Coach boom as a reputation for top ten classes. So yes, I did, and still do think we can be top ten. But I can't imagine loosing 11 spots in such a short time bc other teams received some commits. Did a bunch of our commits get demoted drastically? Wow!
Again, its based on points. Look at the teams ahead of us starting at #4:

Oregon - nine 4 stars
Clemson - one 5 star ; five 4 stars
Michigan - one 5 star ; six 4 stars
Oklahoma - one 5 star ; eight 4 stars
Notre Dame - ten 4 stars
Florida State - one 5 star ; nine 4 stars
Mississippi State - seven 4 stars
Ohio State - one 5 star ; nine 4 stars

South Carolina - one 5 star ; five 4 stars

So obviously the question is why is Oregon, Clemson, Notre Dame, and Mississippi State ahead of us? Well basically its because the point weighting of their 4 stars are higher than ours. We have 3 heavy hitters in our class: Pickens, Hilinksi, and Anderson .. Mullins, Holley, and Kenion are fringe 4 stars.

Whereas in Oregon's class, most of their 4 stars are mid/high. Same with Mississippi State and Notre Dame. Although our class and Miss State's class are pretty identical in the overall points.
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I could understand us falling a few spots because of adjustments or other teams gaining commitments. But NOT eleven spots! I don't see great numbers of other teams, so different than a week or so ago.
And yes, sitting at number four, with the knowledge that we were in good with several other high ranking players, I did believe that we could remain a top ten team. I maybe didn't believe we would stay in the top five, but definitely in the top ten. Coach boom as a reputation for top ten classes. So yes, I did, and still do think we can be top ten. But I can't imagine loosing 11 spots in such a short time bc other teams received some commits. Did a bunch of our commits get demoted drastically? Wow!
Keep in mind right now the difference between 12th and 5th is 10 points. If Cam Smith and Jaylen McCollugh were to commit today we'd rise back up to 5th.
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If you added:

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We would be at 254 points.

That would've been good enough for #15 last year.

However I bet NO ONE is going to complain about that class. NO ONE.

Even if you swapped Sorrells for Dante Walker and removed Dixon for Travon Walker, we would be at 260 points which would be good enough for #13 last year.
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If you added:

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Robinson

We would be at 254 points.

That would've been good enough for #15 last year.

However I bet NO ONE is going to complain about that class. NO ONE.

Even if you swapped Sorrells for Dante Walker and removed Dixon for Travon Walker, we would be at 260 points which would be good enough for #13 last year.
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Again, its based on points. Look at the teams ahead of us starting at #4:

Oregon - nine 4 stars
Clemson - one 5 star ; five 4 stars
Michigan - one 5 star ; six 4 stars
Oklahoma - one 5 star ; eight 4 stars
Notre Dame - ten 4 stars
Florida State - one 5 star ; nine 4 stars
Mississippi State - seven 4 stars
Ohio State - one 5 star ; nine 4 stars

South Carolina - one 5 star ; five 4 stars.
Basically the only difference at this moment between Clemson and Carolinas classes are they have 2 more 3*s. They have 18 commits to Carolinas 16.
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Jaydon Hill is committing around the 4th=. I expect him to pick UT though. Hope I am wrong
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Jaydon Hill is committing around the 4th=. I expect him to pick UT though. Hope I am wrong
I think he'll be a Gamecock. Will be one to sweat out for sure.
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Curtis Fann just got a CB flip to Gamecocks from Rusty Mansell
That's pretty quick for him just committing.
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Have we ever had this many commitments/targets at The Opening? I don't typically follow it that closely but I might this time around.
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That's pretty quick for him just committing.
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