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Old 11-25-2016, 11:38 AM   #21
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so you dont trust frank and how his recruiting has turned out thus far?

and you dont agree that typically players from the NY, Philly area are better?
He's recruited decently. And no, that's a pretty stupid generalization
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Received offers from UConn and UNLV over the past week. Not sure if he is still really considering SC
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:54 PM   #23
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recent article from the state re: matchup with Zion...

not reading much into it, but seems like there may still be some hope.

http://www.thestate.com/sports/high-...161314453.html
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Old 07-29-2017, 02:37 PM   #24
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I think he's transferring from Flora to Lower Richland
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There's no reason we shouldn't land a local kid after going to the final four.

It's just like CU owning the state of SC in recruiting after winning the football natty.
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There's no reason we shouldn't land a local kid after going to the final four.

It's just like CU owning the state of SC in recruiting after winning the football natty.
They have to want to stay instate first. Then we have to sustain the success and keep making tournaments to prove we weren't a one year wonder. The word is Brown wants to leave the state. Our chances of landing him are slim at best but Martin is going to keep trying to make headway there but don't get your hopes up on this one.
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Old 07-30-2017, 01:07 PM   #27
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They have to want to stay instate first. Then we have to sustain the success and keep making tournaments to prove we weren't a one year wonder. The word is Brown wants to leave the state. Our chances of landing him are slim at best but Martin is going to keep trying to make headway there but don't get your hopes up on this one.
If the best players keep coming to SC we will continue to sustain success.

Frank took a mixed bag of talent and took them to the final four. Obviously he can coach. Now he needs to parlay that success and step up his recruiting game.
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If the best players keep coming to SC we will continue to sustain success.

Frank took a mixed bag of talent and took them to the final four. Obviously he can coach. Now he needs to parlay that success and step up his recruiting game.
Do you consider us a blue blood? That's the type of school that Brown seems hellbent to go to, combine that with an extreme willingness bordering on eagerness to leave the state and things don't look good. You can only do so much in recruiting to change a kid's mind. Brown is an extreme long shot, doesn't matter if he is from SC or not because that doesn't change the fact his odds of coming here are slim to none.
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Not a blue blood but neither is CU in football and they've had a lot of recruiting success based off of winning a natty. We may not get this dude but definitely should start bringing in Top ten classes on the reg now.
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Not a blue blood but neither is CU in football and they've had a lot of recruiting success based off of winning a natty. We may not get this dude but definitely should start bringing in Top ten classes on the reg now.
First Clemson has had sustained success in football, 6 straight double digit win seasons and multiple conference titles in there so the comparison is a bad one. Second I expect an uptick in recruiting success but Frank isn't going to start nailing down top 10 classes because of 1 season, we require sustained success to have a shot at that. We're in it for more big name players than we've been in it for in the past and that should lead to a bit of a boost but not top 10 based off of 1 successful NCAA Tournament run. Also Frank doesn't pay attention to star rankings, he pays attention to guys he thinks can thrive under his somewhat unique coaching style. Also Butler wasn't hauling in top 10 classes after back to back National Championship game appearances, recruiting doesn't work the way you seem to think it works.
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I thought success meant better recruiting. Guess not.

Better facilities and kissing recruits ass?

I know putting guys in the league would help but how many of the guys making the NBA were nearly draftable products out of high school?
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I thought success meant better recruiting. Guess not.

Better facilities and kissing recruits ass?

I know putting guys in the league would help but how many of the guys making the NBA were nearly draftable products out of high school?
It does. But 1 great year doesn't mean top 10 classes. Top 20-25? Sure. Top 10? Not as much. And Martin's style turns off some of these top recruits who just want to put up numbers and don't put a premium on defending which limits the pool you have to work with. And we put Thornwell in the league but that was our first guy in over a decade to get drafted, got to keep building the number of guys we get drafted to make that a good selling point. Still plenty of work to do to get to a top 10 class type of team, good news is Frank doesn't require top 10 classes to win.
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Not a blue blood but neither is CU in football and they've had a lot of recruiting success based off of winning a natty. We may not get this dude but definitely should start bringing in Top ten classes on the reg now.
Not even close to true. If we can bring in even one top 10 class it's a success. One final four doesn't make you a recruiting power. Kentucky, Duke, unc, Kansas, Arizona, UCLA, Michigan State and the likes will always out recruit us because of tradition. Honestly the best well do when in the sec is third behind uk and uf. Id be happy with a top 25 class every year. Anything else is a bonus
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First Clemson has had sustained success in football, 6 straight double digit win seasons and multiple conference titles in there so the comparison is a bad one. Second I expect an uptick in recruiting success but Frank isn't going to start nailing down top 10 classes because of 1 season, we require sustained success to have a shot at that. We're in it for more big name players than we've been in it for in the past and that should lead to a bit of a boost but not top 10 based off of 1 successful NCAA Tournament run. Also Frank doesn't pay attention to star rankings, he pays attention to guys he thinks can thrive under his somewhat unique coaching style. Also Butler wasn't hauling in top 10 classes after back to back National Championship game appearances, recruiting doesn't work the way you seem to think it works.
Perfectly said.
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First Clemson has had sustained success in football, 6 straight double digit win seasons and multiple conference titles in there so the comparison is a bad one. Second I expect an uptick in recruiting success but Frank isn't going to start nailing down top 10 classes because of 1 season, we require sustained success to have a shot at that. We're in it for more big name players than we've been in it for in the past and that should lead to a bit of a boost but not top 10 based off of 1 successful NCAA Tournament run. Also Frank doesn't pay attention to star rankings, he pays attention to guys he thinks can thrive under his somewhat unique coaching style. Also Butler wasn't hauling in top 10 classes after back to back National Championship game appearances, recruiting doesn't work the way you seem to think it works.
Hey what are you f*cking sayin", Frank don't pay no "tention to stars....Sh*t man, You all wrong bo! Sh*t stars matter and Martin knows it...Nothing you say from here on out has any f*ckin" cred. MAN!
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Do you consider us a blue blood? That's the type of school that Brown seems hellbent to go to, combine that with an extreme willingness bordering on eagerness to leave the state and things don't look good. You can only do so much in recruiting to change a kid's mind. Brown is an extreme long shot, doesn't matter if he is from SC or not because that doesn't change the fact his odds of coming here are slim to none.
Is uga a "blue blood"?
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Yeah so far everyone thinks he's going to UGA that might change if Bowen balls out next year... or if we get a commitment from a prospect on the 20th
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Yeah so far everyone thinks he's going to UGA that might change if Bowen balls out next year... or if we get a commitment from a prospect on the 20th
Uga got an elite 5 star point guard committed that many think will draw other top prospects. Losing a kid like this to uga would be a bummer though
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Uga got an elite 5 star point guard committed that many think will draw other top prospects. Losing a kid like this to uga would be a bummer though
From some people close to him, he hasn't really shown a great interest in playing for SC to begin with.
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