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Old 01-11-2018, 12:03 AM   #81
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Is he virtually in the clear or can the NCAA still rule him permanently ineligible?
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Glad someone finally made a thread because I wasn’t sure where to post this. But, I heard that he was none too happy about the McClendon for OC hire. Just what I heard though.
I heard he was excited about the renovations at Founder's Park though.
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:53 AM   #83
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Most people don't even remember this, but you are right. I was thinking the same thing!!!
I was just a baby when he signed with USC and still lived in NJ, but I've heard the story many times.
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:14 AM   #85
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I think that there is a lot of confusion on when exactly this kid will be able to officially step onto the court in a game, for this university. I realize the norm is he'd have to sit for two semesters as a transfer. But he never played for them, and there are extenuating circumstances. I am hearing that they are discussing giving him a waiver because of all the craziness. I am hearing he will never be able to actually play. I have also heard he will be able to practice with the team immediately, and eligible to play as of the first game of next season. So please post what you know, or what you've heard, but differentiate which is which. Thanks!
The most official word I've read is that he must sit the first two semesters, which is spring and fall of 2018. He will be eligible to play beginning in December 2018. He is being treated as any transfer from another program, that is required to sit two semesters before being eligible to play for his new program. Like all other red-shirting transfers, he's free to participate in team functions and practices, and sit on the bench during games. The reason right now that he won't be available to start the 2018-19 season, is because he simply wasn't a part of the program at the start of this season, and enrolled in classes at USC.

Now, if USC also chooses to submit a waiver request to the NCAA to waive that, like we did for Te'a Cooper on the women's team, then there may be something different that happens, maybe not. I haven't read that USC will submit any such request.....
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Good job, Frank. Clean or dirty, I donít care. We are pitiful and need talent in the worst way. Just make sure nothing can be traced. Only stinks that he has to wait so long to play.
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Is he virtually in the clear or can the NCAA still rule him permanently ineligible?
No. I think there is a ton of wishful thinking around USC but he may be ruled ineligible by ncaa. Could never see the court. This is a bit risky and an odd choice by him considering we had a coach tied to the whole scandal. I really hope this works out for both parties but it's a bit of a head scratcher.
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No. I think there is a ton of wishful thinking around USC but he may be ruled ineligible by ncaa. Could never see the court. This is a bit risky and an odd choice by him considering we had a coach tied to the whole scandal. I really hope this works out for both parties but it's a bit of a head scratcher.
Not sure what the risk is. Worst case he never suits up for us and we continue to be an average team. Best case he suits up for us and makes us better.
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The Charleston paper said he would be cleared December 18th to start playing. But he can practice now.

I don't think the NCAA has any issues with the young man right now - the recruiting scandal is all FBI. Louisville cut him loose to avoid penalties, not because he was ineligible. I am sure the NCAA will look into it, and the Pitino wrongful termination trial will factor in somewhere, but right now he can play after two semesters.

This is typical Frank recruiting - you hear nothing until the recruit is signed up or on campus.

If/when he plays, we could have the best team in our history. Rah and Gravett at Point, Beatty and Holden at Shooting Guard, Minaya and Bowen at Wing, Silva, Haase, Kotsar, Cudd and Doumbia inside.

We only have one spot remaining so I could see someone leaving - which is why I left Gueye off the list. If he does not show something this year, I can see him going elsewhere for more PT.

We need two more Guards - a Point and a #2, because we will need the for the following season (Gravett and Holden will be Seniors next year) and, as shown this year, we need depth at Guard.
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Not sure what the risk is. Worst case he never suits up for us and we continue to be an average team. Best case he suits up for us and makes us better.

Reference the Lamont Evans issue. If nothing ties usc to any of that, great and it certainly looks like we're in the clear. This could however make investigators take a deeper look. There's the risk to me. If Martin and Tanner feel good about his ncaa status and that investigation, this is a good move. I hope it all works out and he plays here. Would be great to see and Martin needs him.
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Hope he can play for us next season, but I'm not going to count on it.

I don't mind Frank taking a chance here. We had nothing to lose. Hopefully tgis helps us with some recruits.

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Old 01-11-2018, 10:27 AM   #92
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Clemson fans are taking this and running with it. Acting like they are not cheating through their teeth. Pathetic.


Who actually GAS about what a bunch of livestock fondlers care about our recruits? They can suck on tractor exhaust, while sliding cash to their friends at I piss Twice a year.
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Sorry if someone else posted this and I missed it, but here's an article on Anfernee Simons from 2 days ago. He does mention that USC has become involved, and Frank observed him in December. He seems to be weighing going pro more than Bowen, and if he doesn't enroll somewhere in the next couple days for spring semester (like Bowen did), it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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I don't believe Frank would have taken Brian unless he thought he was innocent of taking money to attend Louisville, and that he was going to be eligible to play like any transfer.
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Couple of questions and my opinion:

1. The NCAA has not actually ruled on this yet, right? I thought Louisville acted on their own to dismiss Bowen or make him ineligible, but I've never heard about or seen anything on the actual NCAA investigation.

2. Has anyone heard anything new about the FBI case?


With those questions, I say go for it. Get the NCAA to clear him before he hits the court but there's plenty of time with the transfer rule. I don't see the harm, either, in asking for a waiver to play in the Fall.

The optics depend on who's looking. From my standpoint as a fan, I take this that Martin and co. either 1) feel entirely confident that Lamont was just a rogue coach and nothing will touch the program because of it or 2) It's still up in the air, so f*** it. Just go for it. I'm cool with either approach. This is, however, putting a lot of faith in the compliance office but whatever.

I'd put the odd at 30% he'll never see the court, though.
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No question people had a legit gripe.
I'm hoping he can reel in Cousinard and Jairus Hamilton (maybe Kaosi Ezegu) this year.

2019 I can see a heavy in-state haul with hopefully Hannibal, D.J. Burns and Christian Brown..if not Brown, Josiah James.

Just saw where Josiah James got a bump on Rivals. He is now a 5 star and the highest recruit in SC. But only a few spots ahead of Christian Brown. A lot of good talent in the state for 2019
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Reference the Lamont Evans issue. If nothing ties usc to any of that, great and it certainly looks like we're in the clear. This could however make investigators take a deeper look. There's the risk to me. If Martin and Tanner feel good about his ncaa status and that investigation, this is a good move. I hope it all works out and he plays here. Would be great to see and Martin needs him.
That was my thought when I read your previous post. At the very least the NCAA will look closely. If there is *any* connection between Bowen and Evans he will never play here. But I have to think that Pastides, Tanner and Martin looked at this very closely. Their reputations (and possibly their jobs) are on the line too.

Unless there is something no one could possibly know about in advance I think he will play next December, with an outside chance at a waiver in which case he will start next fall.
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I was really surprised by this news. I thought for sure the whole thing with Evans would prevent us from even considering this scenario. Well overall I think this is great news for all parties. I think Frank is the kinda positive adult influence Bowen needs in his life right now. Even if he never plays for us, both he and our team should benefit from just the practices.
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Just saw where Josiah James got a bump on Rivals. He is now a 5 star and the highest recruit in SC. But only a few spots ahead of Christian Brown. A lot of good talent in the state for 2019
Frank better hope he lands either James or Brown. If he goes 0-3 on 5* recruits in our front and back yard (including Zion, assuming he goes elsewhere) over such a short period, that's pretty bad. Awful actually.
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