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Old 01-11-2018, 12:59 PM   #101
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Frank better hope he lands either James or Brown. If he goes 0-3 on 5* recruits in our front and back yard (including Zion, assuming he goes elsewhere) over such a short period, that's pretty bad. Awful actually.
Why bring negative energy to a very positive thread?

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Old 01-11-2018, 01:08 PM   #102
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STFU. Why bring negative energy to a very positive thread?

At least you got your screen name correct.
There's nothing negative about it. Just reality. We have 3 5* recruits within arm's length. If we hope to establish any legitimacy, we should be able to pick up at least one of them.

I'm as excited as anyone about picking up Bowen, but let's be honest that he comes with an *. Most other programs probably didn't want to mess with him b/c of the potential baggage. Based on his lawyer's statement, it seems obvious we're about the only program that was willing to take him on, so it's not like we beat anyone out for him. And, there's still no guarantee he'll ever actually play a game here.

Nevertheless...

As I stated earlier, if it pans out and he plays here, this is good for Frank, even if Bowen isn't clean. This is how you play big boy basketball in the NCAA. Just make sure it can't be traced.
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:27 PM   #103
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Frank better hope he lands either James or Brown. If he goes 0-3 on 5* recruits in our front and back yard (including Zion, assuming he goes elsewhere) over such a short period, that's pretty bad. Awful actually.
Apparently now there is a chance of Zion coming to play with Bowen.

http://www.thestate.com/sports/colle...194144209.html
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Apparently now there is a chance of Zion coming to play with Bowen.

http://www.thestate.com/sports/colle...194144209.html
We'll be fighting for another FF appearance if that happens!

Heck, let's sign a 5 star guard from NYC to make things really interesting.
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Apparently now there is a chance of Zion coming to play with Bowen.

http://www.thestate.com/sports/colle...194144209.html
It's only speculation at this point, since Zion hasn't said a thing, but it's surely what we're all hoping for. If Bowen could be the domino that leads to Zion and then James and/or Brown, that would be remarkable.

We are dying for talent. Hopefully Bowen is the start of an influx.
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:46 PM   #106
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It's only speculation at this point, since Zion hasn't said a thing, but it's surely what we're all hoping for. If Bowen could be the domino that leads to Zion and then James and/or Brown, that would be remarkable.

We are dying for talent. Hopefully Bowen is the start of an influx.
I completely agree with you that Bowen could be the first domino to fall.

I'm not so sure Zion would come here but let's hope!
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:44 PM   #107
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:52 PM   #108
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TBS’ John Whittle yesterday originally reported Brian would be eligible at the beginning of the season. He did a follow up with people inside the program and they feel there’s a very good chance of his availability at the start of the season. USC will apply for a waiver for Bowen to play and feeling is the waiver will be approved because Brian never participated in team practices while at UL.
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Old 01-11-2018, 04:08 PM   #109
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TBS’ John Whittle yesterday originally reported Brian would be eligible at the beginning of the season. He did a follow up with people inside the program and they feel there’s a very good chance of his availability at the start of the season. USC will apply for a waiver for Bowen to play and feeling is the waiver will be approved because Brian never participated in team practices while at UL.
I hope so. It should be approved because he will have not played for two semesters. To make him sit out three semesters seems unfair.
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TBS’ John Whittle yesterday originally reported Brian would be eligible at the beginning of the season. He did a follow up with people inside the program and they feel there’s a very good chance of his availability at the start of the season. USC will apply for a waiver for Bowen to play and feeling is the waiver will be approved because Brian never participated in team practices while at UL.
SO this waiver would make him available to play now right?
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Good job, Frank. Clean or dirty, I don’t care. We are pitiful and need talent in the worst way. Just make sure nothing can be traced. Only stinks that he has to wait so long to play.
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SO this waiver would make him available to play now right?
No for next season. Looks like he’ll just be in practices this season beginning today.
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We need a G who can penetrate to the post and score/draw fouls right now.

Frank is going to make Bowen hustle on defense, too, after the honeymoon is over.

He gives us enough bodies for effective practices and that's all he can do right now.
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No for next season. Looks like he’ll just be in practices this season beginning today.
That's good so at least he can start learning Frank's system, get familiar with his teammates, and get in our S&C program.
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Let's go ahead and get 3 x 5* players in the same class.
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It took 50 years, but this is the give back for Mike Grosso having to transfer from USC to Louisville when the ACC wouldn't allow him to be admitted. ;)
Actually he did enroll at USC and played on the freshmen team when freshman were not allowed to play on the varsity at that time. This was despite the objections of Duke and UNC who ruled the acc at that time, probably still do. The acc commissioner ruled he could play at USC. Duke and UNC did not give up their objections and the commissioner then sided with them and ruled he could not play in the acc the next season. He then transferred to Louisville. This is just one of many reasons I hate the acc. USC was treated like dirt once McGuire got here and started beating up on the other acc teams. Duke and UNC were the real devils at the time. In fact things got so heated between USC and the acc, the acc commissioner ruled no team in what would have been Grosso's soph. season at USC would have to play at USC that season if they did not want to do so. Duke chose not to play us at home that year. Do I hate Duke and the acc? You bet I do.
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Getting a talent like Bowen's is getting us some publicity again also Love this whenever folks are talking about your program it is a good sign.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:23 PM   #118
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Actually he did enroll at USC and played on the freshmen team when freshman were not allowed to play on the varsity at that time. This was despite the objections of Duke and UNC who ruled the acc at that time, probably still do. The acc commissioner ruled he could play at USC. Duke and UNC did not give up their objections and the commissioner then sided with them and ruled he could not play in the acc the next season. He then transferred to Louisville. This is just one of many reasons I hate the acc. USC was treated like dirt once McGuire got here and started beating up on the other acc teams. Duke and UNC were the real devils at the time. In fact things got so heated between USC and the acc, the acc commissioner ruled no team in what would have been Grosso's soph. season at USC would have to play at USC that season if they did not want to do so. Duke chose not to play us at home that year. Do I hate Duke and the acc? You bet I do.
Yeah, he was eligible per the NCAA. The simple solution was to suspend him for a few games. But the ACC hated our success and were afraid that Grosso would tilt things too much in our favor, so they got rid of him. Grosso was the 2nd best big man in the country coming out of HS, behind only Kareem Abdul-Jabbar/Lew Alcindor.

Incidentally, we also were in good shape to get Alcindor - he asked Wilt Chamberlain for advice on where to go for college, and Wilt said to go play for Frank McGuire. And we were getting everyone out of NYC at the time. But McGuire did not think the university was ready for an African-American player, and he did not pursue him.

Grosso dominated our varsity players in practice and would have been a great pro, and he had a outstanding career at Louisville. But he also had knee injuries in college that derailed his pro career.

The Grosso thing was right after we got stripped of the 1965 football title because we mistakenly gave $200 in book money to two walk-ons. It should have been a simple fix - make them pay it back and install a double check so it did not happen again. The ACC ruled that the money made them ineligible players and since they had gotten into two games on special teams, both games were forfeited. Clemson got to claim the title with a meaningless trophy - we beat them on the field and had the better league record.
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Frank said during Carolina Calls tonight that his office has been swamped with requests from NBA teams to come to our practices after Bowen joined us.
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There's nothing negative about it.
We finally land a 5* recruit, a consensus Top 20 player, and this is the type of crap you dish out? This is what we have been waiting for, and when you land one, others may soon follow.
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