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Old 04-20-2017, 04:30 PM   #1
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Default Who starts at cornerback?

With Jamyest coming in I assumed he would start by mid season or so, but we have king, lammons and Fenton. I know they will rotate in and out at times but I assumed jamyest was going to start. Who does he replace? King, Fenton and lammons aren't exceptional but they've been ok and gotten some turnovers. Muschamp has stated that Fenton has been the most consistent of the 3 this offseason.

it's often said that safeties are safeties because they're too slow to play corner. I really wouldn't mind seeing lammons move to safety if he's not afraid to hit. DJ smith to me hasn't cut it at safety and he's had plenty of time. Not sure Lammons is an upgrade but I'd like to see. Maybe he comes around this year though I don't know. Williams and Dickerson are going to shake the secondary up with competition this fall and I expect our secondary to flourish the next few years with the addition of those 2.

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Default Re: Who starts at cornerback?

Doubt Jaymest starts game one. Probably king and Lammons with Fenton and Williams in the 2 deep.
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Default Re: Who starts at cornerback?

I will be stunned if a 5'9" true freshman corner starts.
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I will be stunned if a 5'9" true freshman corner starts.
Prepare to be stunned three games into the season.
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Prepare to be stunned three games into the season.
I just don't see it. I see him competing for the nickel spot if anything. His biggest impact could be on Special Teams as a Punt Returner. If I am an OC and I see my 6'4 receiver lined up on a 5'9 true freshman, I'm picking on him all day long. He is a talented player but he isn't Vernon Hargreaves.

King, Fenton, and Lammons will handle the Corner spots again. Williams, Nixon, and Chalmers will all be in the rotation somewhere.

I expect Smith, Dickerson, Montac, and Wilder to hold down the Safety spots. Its possible Lammons and Nixon play some there too and I wouldn't rule out Charleston getting some burn.
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I just don't see it. I see him competing for the nickel spot if anything. His biggest impact could be on Special Teams as a Punt Returner. If I am an OC and I see my 6'4 receiver lined up on a 5'9 true freshman, I'm picking on him all day long. He is a talented player but he isn't Vernon Hargreaves.

King, Fenton, and Lammons will handle the Corner spots again. Williams, Nixon, and Chalmers will all be in the rotation somewhere.

I expect Smith, Dickerson, Montac, and Wilder to hold down the Safety spots. Its possible Lammons and Nixon play some there too and I wouldn't rule out Charleston getting some burn.
I could be wrong but is 5'9 and 5'11 really a big difference at corner. Muschamp said last season can't remember which corner but he said he had a good vertical. It's. It like corners are going to be 6'2. They're always going to undersized to a WR. We don't have many corners over 5'10 if any.
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Default Re: Who starts at cornerback?

Lammons is only 5'9". Unless we somehow find a quick DE that can rush the QB, we will continue to play mostly zone. I do think T-Rob will give Jamyest some reps at corner, especially if we are playing a team that throws it 50 times a game. It will be interesting to see how physical J-Will is with WR if he gets a chance to play press coverage at corner. I think Nixon will get plenty of PT at corner. I think he's going to be too good to keep off the field. And he has the size to be very physical with WR. Although, it will take all the new guys 3-4 games before they learn our defensive sets.
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That's why I said by mid season. I'm talking about starting in general at any point and whose place does he take. If his size was such an issue that he shouldn't start because of it, then why even recruit the guy? 5'9 wasn't much of an issue for captain munnerlyn and by all accounts jamyest is projected to be better coming out of HS then captain was. There's literally 2 DBs on our whole roster 5'11 or higher. Don't see what 2 inches do. Most WRs are going to be taller anyways. He's got a great vertical.

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Old 04-20-2017, 09:04 PM   #9
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Williams height will not be an issue. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see him start at cb at some point this season.
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Depends on the matchup and how well he closes down. I bet we see it a few games. Captain 2.0
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Default Re: Who starts at cornerback?

I think King and Lammons will start the season as they are more experienced and more developed. Williams will rotate in until he shows he can play at the CFB level and understands his assignments. Williams may not start all season long: I hope if he does, its because he's earned it and not because one of the others are doing poorly, and the staff has no choice...
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I'll give it a try.
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Not really. But a man can dream can't he?
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No, Who starts at first.
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You guys are leaving some names out of the mix

16 Rashad Fenton DB 5-11 183 JR
40 Jason Senn DB 5-8 177 RS SO
22 Steven Montac DB 5-10 186 JR
12 Kaleb Chalmers DB 5-11 179 RS SO
17 Javon Charleston DB 6-0 183 RS SO
7 JaMarcus King DB 6-1 186 SR
36 Morgan Vest DB 6-0 190 RS FR
26 Jaylin Dickerson DB 6-1 180 FR
29 Antoine Wilder DB 5-10 185 RS SO
47 Jaylan Foster DB 5-10 187 SO
3 Chris Lammons DB 5-9 188 SR
24 D.J. Smith DB 5-11 194 SR
31 Chris Smith DB 5-9 180 RS FR
39 Demetrius Smalls DB 5-9 170 RS SR
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You guys are leaving some names out of the mix

16 Rashad Fenton DB 5-11 183 JR
40 Jason Senn DB 5-8 177 RS SO
22 Steven Montac DB 5-10 186 JR
12 Kaleb Chalmers DB 5-11 179 RS SO
17 Javon Charleston DB 6-0 183 RS SO
7 JaMarcus King DB 6-1 186 SR
36 Morgan Vest DB 6-0 190 RS FR
26 Jaylin Dickerson DB 6-1 180 FR
29 Antoine Wilder DB 5-10 185 RS SO
47 Jaylan Foster DB 5-10 187 SO
3 Chris Lammons DB 5-9 188 SR
24 D.J. Smith DB 5-11 194 SR
31 Chris Smith DB 5-9 180 RS FR
39 Demetrius Smalls DB 5-9 170 RS SR
34 Scott Grant DB 5-10 192 RS JR

This tells me we need to get bigger.
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We also should have Nixon in soon and he will compete for a spot.
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Yeah, Chalmers and Nixon are in the mix for the two deep. I have not heard much about Chris Smith since he came in early last year so he may not be in the mix. I think Wilder will be a Safety but he has played both positions.
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