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Old 05-03-2017, 10:50 AM   #21
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I never said all JUCO or bad. I just don't like taking alot at 1 position
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:05 AM   #22
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Anyone else seeing this kid as a must get now? I don't like the fact that he can only play 2 years for us but I think we need his speed on the edge immediately. Do we have anyone on our board that has this kind of size and speed at SDE?
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:21 AM   #23
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Looks good to me. Hopefully we can bring him on board. He would probably start immediately.
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I never said all JUCO or bad. I just don't like taking alot at 1 position
DL is the weakest part of the team. We need immediate help there.
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Anyone else seeing this kid as a must get now? I don't like the fact that he can only play 2 years for us but I think we need his speed on the edge immediately. Do we have anyone on our board that has this kind of size and speed at SDE?
The 2 years buys us time to bring in younger players and gives them a year to develop.
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Am I missing something? I don't see a problem bringing in a JUCO to solve an immediate problem. Sure, we only get them for 2 years, but if they can start for 2 years, what is the problem?

Most of the players on a roster only get to start 1 or 2 years. If we have exceptional players they probably start 3 years and leave early. Occasionally we have players that play 4 year, but rarely start 4 years.

Lets face it, we only have most players in a starting position 2 or 3 years. What makes a difference if they spend time developing as a JUCO, as opposed to developing in our program for a year or 2 before they are ready to play SEC ball?
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Anyone else seeing this kid as a must get now? I don't like the fact that he can only play 2 years for us but I think we need his speed on the edge immediately. Do we have anyone on our board that has this kind of size and speed at SDE?
I think this kid was a must get before we lost XT. You don't want to rely on freshmen picking it up immediately, no matter how talented.
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We need all the help on the line that we can get. He seemed pretty excited about that offer from Alabama though. I hope Muschamp can lure him back home.
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Old 05-07-2017, 05:43 PM   #29
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Am I missing something? I don't see a problem bringing in a JUCO to solve an immediate problem. Sure, we only get them for 2 years, but if they can start for 2 years, what is the problem?

Most of the players on a roster only get to start 1 or 2 years. If we have exceptional players they probably start 3 years and leave early. Occasionally we have players that play 4 year, but rarely start 4 years.

Lets face it, we only have most players in a starting position 2 or 3 years. What makes a difference if they spend time developing as a JUCO, as opposed to developing in our program for a year or 2 before they are ready to play SEC ball?
Level of competition and quality of coaching are tue biggest two differences. Simple fact is the average juco pass rusher usually doesn't make a huge impact in their first year against SEC competition. So that's one less year of the 2 you have them for. Juco players are a 2 year gamble.
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Level of competition and quality of coaching are tue biggest two differences. Simple fact is the average juco pass rusher usually doesn't make a huge impact in their first year against SEC competition. So that's one less year of the 2 you have them for. Juco players are a 2 year gamble.
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Old 05-08-2017, 09:20 PM   #31
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FSU offered
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Old 05-08-2017, 09:23 PM   #32
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:07 PM   #33
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They must not have gotten the memo about not being able to pass rush Year One.

JUCO is better competition/coaching than HS and they have two more years to practice and mature. True Freshman can play on the D Line if they have talent - much different than the O Line. Talented JUCOs can have an even bigger impact their first year.
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Hope our early interest and persistence in recruiting him has payed off. Will immediately boost whatever DL he joins.
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he is growing on me abit
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Adding Ellis and Barkley to Gerald would be a nice threesome of JUCO DL.
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Adding Ellis and Barkley to Gerald would be a nice threesome of JUCO DL.

I'm not sold on Ellis and Barkley yet. I am pretty solid on Gerald after watching him enough. He is a headhunter on the edge.
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After what we saw from our latest 'all-world' JUCO DE the last two years, color me skeptical (ever hopeful, but skeptical).
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After what we saw from our latest 'all-world' JUCO DE the last two years, color me skeptical (ever hopeful, but skeptical).
Wasn't aware that Muschamp's staff has landed any JUCO DL since he got here. Don't put the issues of Spurrier's staff on Muschamp's.
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Wasn't aware that Muschamp's staff has landed any JUCO DL since he got here. Don't put the issues of Spurrier's staff on Muschamp's.
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