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Old 05-09-2017, 01:09 PM   #41
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Kinlaw, but he just got on campus
Let me rephrase that one then, none that have played a down. If Kinlaw is what the staff is hoping that will be 1/1 on JUCO DL in a huge way. Would not be shocked to see Kinlaw be our top DL this year and finally give us someone who requires a double team for the first time since Clowney and Quarles left.
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Wasn't aware that Muschamp's staff has landed any JUCO DL since he got here. Don't put the issues of Spurrier's staff on Muschamp's.
Just saying I don't have a lot of faith in JUCOs, period. (And I'm well aware of the forth-coming posts stating "X" was a JUCO, and "Y" was a JUCO, etc.)

I hope Mr. Gerald comes here, and makes us forget about Clowney!
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Not an "X was a JUCO" post but it seems odd that Qua Lewis is being used as an example of JUCOs not being good. No, Qua did not come in and become an All-American, or put up amazing stat totals. But he had a nice two years as a full-time starter, with decent stats and a shot at an NFL career.

If a true Freshman came in and became a solid starter for two years at some point in his 3-5 year career, those same people would consider him a success. Qua did that, but without tying up a scholarship for an additional 1-3 years when he was not the starter.

Take away JUCOs Ulric Jones, Dante Sawyer and Kinlaw (projecting a little with Kinlaw) and where would our D Line be in 2017? Looking at it now, that would be two likely starters and a key reserve gone from the line-up. Ouch.
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Old 05-09-2017, 05:25 PM   #44
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Not an "X was a JUCO" post but it seems odd that Qua Lewis is being used as an example of JUCOs not being good. No, Qua did not come in and become an All-American, or put up amazing stat totals. But he had a nice two years as a full-time starter, with decent stats and a shot at an NFL career.

If a true Freshman came in and became a solid starter for two years at some point in his 3-5 year career, those same people would consider him a success. Qua did that, but without tying up a scholarship for an additional 1-3 years when he was not the starter.

Take away JUCOs Ulric Jones, Dante Sawyer and Kinlaw (projecting a little with Kinlaw) and where would our D Line be in 2017? Looking at it now, that would be two likely starters and a key reserve gone from the line-up. Ouch.
Yea, but Qua was a unanimous 5* #1 juco player and all he did was come in and be a "full time starter". Guys with those accolades should contribute more than that. Granted he didn't have much help but still. Just makes a lot of us skeptical about juco players. Realistically, juco competition is about as good as the top 10% of high school teams. Yea you have a number of D1 talented kids, but the majority are just there to play because they aren't good enough for anywhere else.
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Yea, but Qua was a unanimous 5* #1 juco player and all he did was come in and be a "full time starter". Guys with those accolades should contribute more than that. Granted he didn't have much help but still. Just makes a lot of us skeptical about juco players. Realistically, juco competition is about as good as the top 10% of high school teams. Yea you have a number of D1 talented kids, but the majority are just there to play because they aren't good enough for anywhere else.
He was a 4* and #3 JUCO. I don't think any service had him as a 5*.

He may have been our best D Lineman the last two years. People expected big sack numbers so that was a little disappointing, but he was a strongside DE - the big sack numbers usually come from the weakside DE. He was more involved with stopping the run game and he was solid there.

He was playing ahead of Dante Sawyer, who was a 4* Top 100 player out of HS before going JUCO. I would guess about 5-10% of D1 kids go JUCO - the #3 JUCO would translate to the 30-60 range for HS players. Which is about right.
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UGA offer. This kid is blowing up
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Old 05-11-2017, 09:33 AM   #47
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:28 AM   #48
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Every single time Muschamp offers somebody, they end up getting multiple offers soon thereafter. This is no exception.
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Every single time Muschamp offers somebody, they end up getting multiple offers soon thereafter. This is no exception.
Yeah, if Boom and the guys wanted to get away from the stress of dealing with people like us, they could make bank with a scouting service. They know their stuff. I think a lot of our rivals look at who we offer and then take a look as well.

Of course, Boom and the guys would not be able to get players to come to their camps if they were not coaching still, so maybe the scouting service would not work.
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I think we should offer a ton of high school kids that suck so Kirby and the rest can go after them and we get left with all the good players.
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Really hope that and being back home are the selling points to get him. Even if he only plays for 2 seasons, he can make an impact from day 1
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I remember C2 mentioning that the running joke amongst different fan bases and coaching circles is that USC has become the unofficial recruiting evaluation service for the rest of the south east. Not sure what you can do to combat that other than wait until really late before you offer.
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I remember C2 mentioning that the running joke amongst different fan bases and coaching circles is that USC has become the unofficial recruiting evaluation service for the rest of the south east. Not sure what you can do to combat that other than wait until really late before you offer.
Yeah I take their joke as a compliment. Eventually you land one of those guys, they help you win, then land a couple more and so on. They can make all the jokes they want while Champ and Co. quietly builds a football monster in Columbia.
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This kid is blowing up. We are still in his top schools, but the wheels are turning in his head. We aren't a sure thing as we once were in the beginning.
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Just now looked at his film. That is some standout play in those clips.
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