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Old 05-07-2017, 10:11 AM   #1
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Future 1st round pick. Mark it down.
So we got 3 years to watch him? If he's that good, it'll be worth it.
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Old 05-07-2017, 11:39 AM   #5
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What's that got to do with anything?
It could mean our coaches have stolen a gem that was overlooked by all the recruiting experts.
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Ok, I'll bite. What makes you say that?
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Ok, I'll bite. What makes you say that?
He's likely referring to an article on 247. Muschamp was asked about the early enrollees yesterday and he had this to say about Dickerson, "Jaylin Dickerson, wow, yeah, hes going to play, Muschamp said. Hes a really good football player and really handled things extremely well in the transition. Hes going to be a really good football player and Im glad hes a Gamecock. Pretty high praise from a guy that knows a thing or two about putting defensive players, especially guys from the secondary, in the league.
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did you watch the spring game
Yes. My point was all the people that keep bashing us signing low ranked players yet then we make a thread about how one of the lowest ranked we signed is a future first rounder.
Therefore we can assume muschamp can evaluate
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It is not just a head coach praising a young player - it is one of the best Defensive Coordinators of all time gushing on a true Freshman at the position he played in college and has coached his entire career.

I have a feeling that Tavyn Jackson will turn out to be a baller as well. We are getting some good young DBs even if the star ratings won't blow you away (except for Jamyest).

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Ok, I'll bite. What makes you say that?
Muschamp is extraordinarily high on him and I don't think even a Muschamp detractor could say he doesn't have an eye for DBs. His Spring Game really just increased my excitement to see him on the field.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:31 PM   #12
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All day long on signing day, the reports in the local news down here that were
interviewing different members of the coaching staff continued to talk this guy
up like he was an exceptional athlete and could end up being the best DB that
we got out of this class INCLUDING JAMYEST WILLIAMS.
That afternoon after all the LOIs were in, and the various media outlets started
evaluating the class, Dickerson's name continued to come up as "An Under the
Radar" kind of player that the coaches were very excited about...especially
coach Boom. I usually don't put too much into those kinds of comments, even
from the press until I see them execute on the field. .. However, the morning
after Signing day, 107.5 had Tim Hill on the morning show talking about the
class. I have met Tim Hill, and spoken with him several times over the years
at the practice field. Tim is the local Sports guy on WOLO TV here in Columbia
and he follows the Gamecocks and local High School sports religiously. I have
gotten a lot of good information and opinions from him at the practice field
for years........After Tim gave his take on the class overall, Bengi Norton asked
him "out of all the new players signed, who would be your pick for the best of
the entire class" ... Tim replied without delay "Jaylin Dickerson" He said that
Jaylin was a special kid who didn't get a lot of offers due to him not attending
a lot of camps. However, he had been here at USC several times, and put up
some extremely impressive numbers that got coach Champ and Coach Robinson's
attention quickly. Tim Hill said that he had seen the kid play in HS and saw footage
of him that the coaching staff watch and said that fans were going to be shocked
at how this guy got as few offers as he did, and .... be very excited to see how
this kid plays. Hill finished by saying. "Not only do I think he is the best DB in this
class, but IMO, he is the best overall athlete we signed this season.

THAT got my attention. It's one of the reason's I wanted to see the Spring game
this year, and why I taped it on SEC TV and have watched it several times. I think
the coaches and local media AND Tim Hill got it spot on. This guy could be the
new version of Ko Simpson. .... keep your eyes on this guy this fall
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Yes. My point was all the people that keep bashing us signing low ranked players yet then we make a thread about how one of the lowest ranked we signed is a future first rounder.
Therefore we can assume muschamp can evaluate
Did Muschamp say he was going to be a first rounder, or just a hopeful fan?
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Did Muschamp say he was going to be a first rounder, or just a hopeful fan?
Muschamp didn't say it but during the spring game one of the announcers said muschamp believes Dickerson could be the best safety he's ever coached. There's excitement because a low ranked player has a potentially insane ceiling

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When our defenses have faltered since ej came aboard in 2008 poor safety play has been the biggest culprit imo. Even in 2014 with the defense being terrible, brison williams moves back to safety for 3 out of the last 4 games and we win those 3 games. Its difficult to play safety nowadays but when you find someone who can make plays prevent big plays and tackle youve got something golden. Hopefully Dickerson is that rock we need back there for us to get back to playing winning defense. Lammons not getting moved is probably a pretty big endorsement of Dickerson.

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Old 05-08-2017, 08:00 AM   #16
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Spurt has spoken.

If you can bring in 5*, history has shown that most will be really good. Getting 4* guys is more of a crap shoot - a lot don't turn out to be legit 4* guys. But you still like your chances on hitting a home run or two if you have a lot of 4* recruits in your class.

But there are more 3* players drafted and playing in the NFL than 4* or 5*. So the trick is finding those 3* that flew under the radar and should have been 4* or 5*. I think that Rico falls into that category, Pharoh was there also, and the initial returns on Dickerson are good.

For a long time, we were getting players better than their star ratings - the last few years, it has been going the other way. But I think the Boom is finding those hidden gems again, based on the offers that come after we get on a player. That is the equalizer for our recruiting.
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He comes from a great high school program too, Coach Metzger at Pinecrest HS in North Carolina does a great job helping young men grow into men of character.
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Spurt has spoken.

If you can bring in 5*, history has shown that most will be really good. Getting 4* guys is more of a crap shoot - a lot don't turn out to be legit 4* guys. But you still like your chances on hitting a home run or two if you have a lot of 4* recruits in your class.

But there are more 3* players drafted and playing in the NFL than 4* or 5*. So the trick is finding those 3* that flew under the radar and should have been 4* or 5*. I think that Rico falls into that category, Pharoh was there also, and the initial returns on Dickerson are good.

For a long time, we were getting players better than their star ratings - the last few years, it has been going the other way. But I think the Boom is finding those hidden gems again, based on the offers that come after we get on a player. That is the equalizer for our recruiting.
There are more 3 stars drafted because there are substantially more 3 stars.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnat...chool-football

There are really good 3 star guys but there are so many more of them than even 4s and 5s that most teams will have to fill classes with them and more will end up drafted just due to numbers. If you look at the Pro Bowl numbers it was fillled with more 4 and 5 stars than 3 stars so when they make the next level that again shows greater success by the percentages.

The key is the coaches that can help develop the 3 star guys. Some guys can and some can't so if you're one of the teams that has to build on these guys you better have superstar coaches.
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Believe I mentioned it in another recruiting thread, but for the 3 years that Muschamp recruited in Florida, 9/15 (60%) of his DBs he recruited, wound up in the NFL.
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The key is the coaches that can help develop the 3 star guys.
And that a lot of the 3* guys aren't physically as mature as the higher rated ones. Give them a year or two and things start evening out.
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