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Old 12-21-2017, 02:24 AM   #1
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"Since 1996 every team that has won a national title except for Oklahoma in 2000 has had at least two top ten national signing classes in the four years before a title. So while signing a top ten recruiting class doesnít guarantee that youíre going to win a national title ó indeed, there are plenty of teams that donít ó for 19 of the past 20 years, you canít win a title without at least two top ten recruiting classes. More interestingly, every champion from the past ten years with the exception of Auburn in 2010 has had at least three top ten recruiting classes in the four years before it won a title."

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Old 12-21-2017, 03:10 AM   #2
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Makes sense. Recruiting should be at a premium and it reflects what type of program you have.
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Old 12-21-2017, 07:15 AM   #3
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Some think that it would be better to hire a coach that can recruit than actually coach. I do think that Muschamp can do both. It seems that Kirby Smart can as well.
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Old 12-21-2017, 07:52 AM   #4
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This is like saying...

Want to date a supermodel, be a superstar athlete or a rock star.
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If you want to be an asskicker, kick some ass.
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But stars don't mean anything!!!

right.....?
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Old 12-21-2017, 11:20 AM   #7
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But stars don't mean anything!!!

right.....?


My mom used to say, "You don't have to be handsome, it is your personality that is important."

She was not wrong. Still, life would have been so much easier if I were indeed handsome.

Now that I think about it, she also gave me a bell to wear around my neck so that people would know i'm around and not be startled at seeing me.
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Old 12-21-2017, 01:01 PM   #9
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Some think that it would be better to hire a coach that can recruit than actually coach. I do think that Muschamp can do both. It seems that Kirby Smart can as well.
It's easy to do it from a program with historical success and a rep sheet that shows they know how to win year in and year out, even if it hasn't equaled championships for the past decade.

We're getting solid players that fill needs and value coaching relationships, but it's not as easy as cherry picking the guys you want when our track record is what it is. Spurrier put us on the map, but before that we didn't have much to hang our hat on nationally. Nothing of relevance to players in the new millennium, at least. I doubt any recruit in 2017 is seriously factoring in an individual's Heisman trophy from the 1984 season.

We haven't had success yet in this social media-driven world that we live in these days, but I think once we do and Justin King helps our image get out there more, we might be able to pull some top 10 classes again in a few years time. Sure twitter was around during the 11 win seasons, but it's taken over now (and we didn't promote ourselves as well then as we do now).

Anyone expecting top 10 classes at this school year in and year out needs to read our media guide vs all the others in the SEC and tell me what about ours makes our school an easy sale to a recruit & their family compared to others? (assuming the family has no prior ties to a school, of course)
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Old 12-21-2017, 01:31 PM   #10
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Some think that it would be better to hire a coach that can recruit than actually coach. I do think that Muschamp can do both. It seems that Kirby Smart can as well.
..Datz5 has proven that point about being a better recruiter than a coach...
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Old 12-21-2017, 01:32 PM   #11
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Some think that it would be better to hire a coach that can recruit than actually coach. I do think that Muschamp can do both. It seems that Kirby Smart can as well.
Smart has the luxury of home field advantage in the best recruiting state in the nation. We will have to settle for the pass overs until we can compete for championships.

I think we filled a lot of needs with this class but we still lack talent and depth on both sides of the LOS.
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Old 12-21-2017, 01:46 PM   #12
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oh lord these convos again..look, sc for the most part will always be in the second 10..Maybe hit the top ten once or twice a decade.

what sc is not, is..bama, ohio state, mich, uga, clemson, fsu, miami, texas, uf, so cal, oklahoma, auburn..etc

hell, uf has a better class with a brand new coach and ut may be equal with us even with that disaster of a coaching search..

lets just be happy with champ and watch him coach them up..

And this is reality, NOT settling.
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Old 12-21-2017, 02:32 PM   #13
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Smart has the luxury of home field advantage in the best recruiting state in the nation. We will have to settle for the pass overs until we can compete for championships.

I think we filled a lot of needs with this class but we still lack talent and depth on both sides of the LOS.
uga does get their pick mainly, but lets not act like we are only getting leftover is GA, we have gotten some guys they really wanted.
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Old 12-23-2017, 03:52 PM   #14
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SB Nation has made a similar point with the "blue chip ratio." Although if Oklahoma wins the title it will go against both theories.

https://www.sbnation.com/a/cfb-previ...lue-chip-ratio
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Old 12-23-2017, 04:13 PM   #15
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This is why I always get a kick out of the lame arguments about so and so being a 2 star player that made it to the NFL.

While ratings aren't an exact science, ask any coach if he would rather have a class full of 5 star recruits or a class full of 3 star recruits and if he's being honest he will go with the 5 star class every time.
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This is why I always get a kick out of the lame arguments about so and so being a 2 star player that made it to the NFL.

While ratings aren't an exact science, ask any coach if he would rather have a class full of 5 star recruits or a class full of 3 star recruits and if he's being honest he will go with the 5 star class every time.
Exactly. I hate seeing that and it's so popular here. Yes, there are three star recruits who blow up and end up legendary. Still, you can not win a championship with 3 star recruits. You need 4 and 5 stars.
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uga does get their pick mainly, but lets not act like we are only getting leftover is GA, we have gotten some guys they really wanted.
Like who?
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oh lord these convos again..look, sc for the most part will always be in the second 10..Maybe hit the top ten once or twice a decade.

what sc is not, is..bama, ohio state, mich, uga, clemson, fsu, miami, texas, uf, so cal, oklahoma, auburn..etc

hell, uf has a better class with a brand new coach and ut may be equal with us even with that disaster of a coaching search..

lets just be happy with champ and watch him coach them up..

And this is reality, NOT settling.
Dude don't ever put CU up in that group. CU is grade C cheating to get what their doing. I will not settle on this reality, USC just has to face the music, they're going to have to cheat even better then the schools listed above to get that Natty, and find a way not to get caught. Maybe funnel money through the mole people to recruits? Clemson is about to get blown up with their church funnel cheating. Hopefully NCAA will take that Natty away last year unlike they did last time.
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