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Old 01-05-2018, 08:01 PM   #21
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Default Re: For all the UCF crybabies....

I'm fine with UCF claiming a national championship. It's not fair that certain teams are eliminated before the season even starts.

8 team playoffs, P5 champions get an automatic bid if they finish undefeated or finish ranked in the top 15. The remaining seeds go to any undefeated G5 team, and then to the 3 highest ranked teams that haven't already made it.

And for rankings, go back to using the BCS rankings. This committee BS is too biased.
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Agree on BCS rankings...
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Old 01-05-2018, 11:22 PM   #23
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Default Re: For all the UCF crybabies....

Lots of tough guys saying UCF would be killed blah blah.

Only way to find out is on the field.

Alabama-Georgia is about as interesting to me as a UK basketball intrasquad game.
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Default Re: For all the UCF crybabies....

UCF claiming a National Title is one of the most college football things that can happen. Bama has multiple claimed titles that are less legitimate than what UCF is currently doing.
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Default Re: For all the UCF crybabies....

Rofl at the sentiment that they deserved a shot. UCF had one score wins against SMU, Memphis, USF, and Navy.

Point me towards the top4 team that gave up 97 points in their last 2 games to unranked opponents.

They won their games, but they did not look good doing it. Watch them play a (regular season) game before saying they're good enough to warrant a championship spot. If you think all wins are created equal, I'm glad as hell you aren't on the playoff committee
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:09 AM   #27
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Default Re: For all the UCF crybabies....

No to the Conference champs getting automatic bids in an 8 team scenario, even if you require them to be in the Top 15. Top 10, maybe.

That is the same Affirmative Action crap that put Clemson into the Orange Bowl a few years back when we had a better team and beat them easily head to head. All conferences are not created equally and you want the best 8 teams in the playoffs.

I agree that the conference champions deserve some additional consideration, same with the best non-Power Five team, but it should be more like a tiebreaker between two otherwise equal teams. The goal should be to always get the best 8 teams in the playoffs.

This year - and I hate to say it - the B1G would have gotten 3 teams into an 8 team playoff. All seeded between 5 and 8, but still in. They proved the strength of the league with a 7-1 record in bowl games.

And all three should be ranked ahead of the ACC champion - the league that went 4-6 with an embarrassing loss by their top team.
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:05 PM   #28
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UCF claiming a National Title is one of the most college football things that can happen. Bama has multiple claimed titles that are less legitimate than what UCF is currently doing.
This. Bama claims championships in years where they were voted #1 before the bowls but lost their bowl. Since there was no poll after the bowls, they claim #1 for that year. What UCF is doing is just as legitimate.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:39 PM   #29
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Huge difference between what Baja did and what UCF is doing.

Bama claimed Championships when the system wasn't designed to claim a sole NCAA National Champion. There are years where there are 2 or even 3 claimed Champions.

UCF, on the other hand, in a time where the titles are at the end of the season and claimed by winning the National Championship Game, is deciding to just say, "F you, we are #1!" There is nothing legitimate about their claims. Heck, if their coach even really thought they were the true National Champions, he wouldn't be using them as a stepping stone.
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Huge difference between what Baja did and what UCF is doing.

Bama claimed Championships when the system wasn't designed to claim a sole NCAA National Champion. There are years where there are 2 or even 3 claimed Champions.

UCF, on the other hand, in a time where the titles are at the end of the season and claimed by winning the National Championship Game, is deciding to just say, "F you, we are #1!" There is nothing legitimate about their claims. Heck, if their coach even really thought they were the true National Champions, he wouldn't be using them as a stepping stone.
So, a team losing itís bowl game but still claiming to be the champions isnít saying ďF you, we are #1!Ē? And the team losing itís bowl game and claiming to be champions is somehow more legitimate than a team going undefeated and claiming to be champions?

And the coach leaving has absolutely nothing to do with the legitimacy of their claim. He is going back to the state he was born, to coach his alma mater, for a lot more money than he was making before.
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No, they are both pretty flawed, but it is what was allowed by the system in place at the time that didn't crown their own, single National Champion. In other words, the system allowed it to happen.

Now that they corrected that flawed system, teams no longer have any real way to claim being the National Champion unless they are recognized as such by the governing body.
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Does anyone really think UCF could beat one of the top four? Or even the OSU team that showed up for their bowl game with USC.
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Does anyone really think UCF could beat one of the top four? Or even the OSU team that showed up for their bowl game with USC.
I think they can... but only if the top 4 team doesn't take them seriously. Which happens, i.e. see Auburn

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I think they can... but only if the top 4 team doesn't take them seriously. Which happens, i.e. see Auburn
IMO there is a difference in playing in the playoff vs playing in a bowl
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A 7 point win does not constitute a whipping. Furthermore Auburn beat themselves, thanks to 3 turnovers.
That's the same thing Dabo said after every one of our five straight wins over clemons. So, does that mean we really didn't beat them?
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IMO there is a difference in playing in the playoff vs playing in a bowl
They were a Cinderella team, would have been fun to watch it play out... it is also very sad that the system has no answer here.
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Does anyone really think UCF could beat one of the top four? Or even the OSU team that showed up for their bowl game with USC.
I think they can beat anybody in the country. Ask oklahoma if they think a non power 5 team can beat a traditional power in a big time game. That's why the games should always be played and the best always decided ON THE FIELD. To say a team can't beat another or doesn't deserve to be in the playoff because a group of people that WATCH games all season says so is, and always will be, pure BULLSHIT!!
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So what's the difference, other than the playoff being for the national title?
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I think that the most interesting thing about UCF was their one-handed player on defense. He played damn good and was all over the field. To be real though, there is no way in hell that they beat Bama, UGA, Oklahoma or Clemsux. I think that Auburn was at a low for this bowl since they could sniff the SEC Championship at one time but were relegated to this bowl instead of bigger and better things. If a team like UCF were to be considered for the playoffs, they would have to have a much better resume in my opinion.
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Rofl at the sentiment that they deserved a shot. UCF had one score wins against SMU, Memphis, USF, and Navy.

Point me towards the top4 team that gave up 97 points in their last 2 games to unranked opponents.

They won their games, but they did not look good doing it. Watch them play a (regular season) game before saying they're good enough to warrant a championship spot. If you think all wins are created equal, I'm glad as hell you aren't on the playoff committee
Wonder if you'd be of that same mindset if Carolina was 11-1 or 12-1 and was being left out because it didnt look so good in wins against la tech, a bad florida team, and a horrible tennessee squad. A win is a win. I guess since they gave up 97 points in those 2 games they should've just gave up and lost. With thinking like that I'm glad as hell you're not on the playoff committee.
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