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Old 07-04-2017, 11:39 AM   #21
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It is impressive to have all that talent on the TN roster. Unfortunately, it will be for naught since they have a (2)* dbag as a coach.
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:55 AM   #23
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It is impressive to have all that talent on the TN roster. Unfortunately, it will be for naught since they have a (2)* dbag as a coach.
Sadly this may be the truth.

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It is impressive to have all that talent on the TN roster. Unfortunately, it will be for naught since they have a (2)* dbag as a coach.
Coaching wise he reminds me a bit of Holbrook in baseball. All star talent but doesn't do much with it.
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:01 PM   #25
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:32 PM   #27
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Here is some roster analysis I did. These are Rivals rankings and went straight off depth charts from this site.

http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football...a/91993Offense

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Offense starters –5 4*’s, 5 3*, 1 U/R (average grade –JR)
Offense backups –4 4*, 5 3*, 1 2*, 1 U/R (average grade -SO)
Defense starters –6 4*s, 4 3*, 1 U/R (average grade JR/SR)
Defense backups –2 4*’s, 8 3*’s, 1 U/R (average grade SO/FR)

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Offense starters – 2 5*, 6 4*’s, 3 3* (average grade –JR)
Offense backups – 5 4*, 6 3* (average grade -JR)
Defense starters – 2 5*, 8 4*s, 1 3* (average grade JR)
Defense backups – 1 5*, 4 4*’s, 6 3*’s (average grade JR)

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Offense starters – 1 5*, 6 4*’s, 2 3*, 1 2*, 1 U/R (average grade JR) -
Offense backups – 6 4*, 5 3* (average grade SO)
Defense starters – 1 5*, 5 4*s, 5 3*s (average grade JR)
Defense backups – 4 4*’s, 4 3*’s, 2 2*’s, 1 U/R (average grade SO)

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Offense starters – 2 5*, 6 4*’s, 3 3* (average grade –JR)
Offense backups – 3 5*’s, 4 4*, 2 3*, 2 U/R (average grade -SO)
Defense starters – 1 5*, 5 4*s, 5 3* (average grade SR)
Defense backups –5 4*’s, 6 3*’s (average grade SO)
So do you think that by posting this numerous times on multiple sites will bring you good luck lol
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I'd rather have Jauan Jennings and Ethan Wolf.
I'd rather you had them also.

You lose your veteran QB, your top WR (Malone), and two best RBs. But I get it - you guys are loaded and will be better on Offense than last year.

Fortunately, we beat you last year, so you would have to be better to get a W this year. We'll see.
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So do you think that by posting this numerous times on multiple sites will bring you good luck lol
I responded to Eric's breakdown earlier. On offense, our unrated guy is Hurst, who is the best TE on either team. One of our 3* is Deebo, who is the best WR on either team. Another 3* is Rico Dowdle, who is the best RB on either team.

If you adjust the stars based on actual talent, all three would be 4* (at least). So we would have 8 - 4* and 3 - 3* on our starting Offense, Kinda puts a different perspective on the breakdown, huh?
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1. Winner of UGA/UF
2. Loser of UGA/UF
3. Winner of UT/SC
4. Loser of UT/SC
5. Kentucky
6. Missouri
7. Vanderbilt

The East is always a mess, and it will be again in 2017. UT still has lots of talent, but we said that last year, and they lost 4 games. I'd have them higher, but your coach is Butch Jones. As someone else put it, he is your Chad Holbrook.

UGA looks good on paper, but they have a tendency to choke under the lights, and KS is unproven. UF is a big question mark on defense, and well as their quarterback situation. Our big question is O line, and if the defense can/will continue to improve.

On the other side: UGA has a strong run game, UF always has a solid defense even when the team is bad and sneaks up on everyone, we have one of the best receiver cores in the East, and UT still has o line talent.

You can make an argument why each team won't win, and why each team can win and be the next sacrificial lamb for Nick Saban in Atlanta.
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OL is a massive issue because we have 1 player who has won battles consistently and that is Bailey. The OL was at very best below average last year, at worst it was borderline terrible it just depends how much you put off on youth but it was in no way average. On offense the OL is our only issue. On defense we have our entire DL to worry about. We don't have an established edge rush and our run defense left much to be desired. I think Kinlaw will fix many problems on the run D but our pass rush doesn't have a clear fix just multiple options to hope exceed expectations. At LB no injuries and we're good, injuries and we're screwed because we're razor thin. At CB we're good, at safety we need newcomers. Moral of the story is we have plenty or potential and plenty of questions. Unfortunately for fans who don't live in a dream world those questions reside in the trenches on both sides of the ball. We've got the potential to be very good maybe contending for the East and the downside to miss a bowl, that's what our season realistically looks like.
The one thing that makes me happy is hiring Wolford and getting away from the zone blocking schemes. The "winning the battles" posts derive almost completely from the blocking techniques and schemes. Even Bailey did not knock guys back on their heels, except when he was pulling. If not for the pulling blocks, you would be classifying him as useless also.

With zone blocking, results matter more than appearances. We did more than fine with our O Line after Elliott arrived - the Offensive numbers improved dramatically across the board. That is, until the last two years, when we had zilch for talent, depth or experience at the skill positions. That started to change in the second half of last year, and will be even better this year, but we are still inexperienced and somewhat unproven. I give them a D- for the First Half, C for the Second Half. They were our weak link last year, even in the Second Half. I am hoping for a B this year, which would make our Offense very strong.

O Line was a C First Half, B- Second Half, and can get into the B+/A- range this year, barring injury. Which would make it one of our best ever.

The question mark on Offense is inexperienced and unproven players at the skill positions. I think the talent is there, but the inexperience will mean that it will take a little time for them to play up to their talent level.
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The oline is not fine, they are not ahead of the skill players. The oline is going to limit what we can do on offense. It's going to hurt the running game significantly and it will prevent us from running lots of deep routes out routes that take a long time to develop
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The oline is not fine, they are not ahead of the skill players. The oline is going to limit what we can do on offense. It's going to hurt the running game significantly and it will prevent us from running lots of deep routes out routes that take a long time to develop
I think the OL improves up to average.
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We have great skill players on offense. I think our OLine will hold us back offensively. Defense, who the hell knows. Skai and BAW should be fine but other than that, who the hell is going to make a play?
I'll be extremely underwhelmed if the online isn't gelling by this point. Knowing how each other moves and the timing of how and when a guy is going to climb to the next level of the defense is as important as quarterbacks and wide receivers timing, and only lose zandi. Then you add Bentley actually being able to understand the protections and it should be an instant upgraded part of the team.
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I do not really see any easy conference games for us, we could beat UGA but lose to KY or Vandy. We typically start the season a bit disjointed offensively, maybe the new coach will have the OL ready? NC State has a good DL so we should know right off the bat this year if we have anything going that could lead to a successful season. Beat NC State and maybe this prediction could come true.

I don't believe UGA will win the East thought, UF usually has their number.
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If Tenn finishes worst than 3rd they are going to fire Butch I bet.
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I never post, bit I can't ever imagine being satisfied with 3rd place in East.
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The oline is not fine, they are not ahead of the skill players. The oline is going to limit what we can do on offense. It's going to hurt the running game significantly and it will prevent us from running lots of deep routes out routes that take a long time to develop
Was Clemson's Offense limited by their O Line last year? Actually, they were a little, but that is not a statement that you would make, or agree with, is it?

Yet Dowdle averaged more yards per game and per carry than Gallman. And it was not real close. And Clemson had the advantage of a running QB and a dynamic passing game to keep opponents from focusing on stopping Gallman. We did not have those advantages, although Bentley did ramp up the passing game a couple of notches.

You can have an average O Line and still have a dynamic Offense - Clemson is proof of that. You just need talent and experience at the skill positions, and to get the ball out to a hot read when the pressure comes. Bentley and his mates still have a ways to go with the experience thing, but they have talent and more experience than last year, and will improve game to game.

So we are fine with an average O Line. And they will be better than average.
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I'd rather you had them also.

You lose your veteran QB, your top WR (Malone), and two best RBs. But I get it - you guys are loaded and will be better on Offense than last year.

Fortunately, we beat you last year, so you would have to be better to get a W this year. We'll see.
If I was a SC fan I'd want Dobbs back because he was horrific in our game last yr.
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Breakdowns of the top 5 SEC teams by the HS rankings which includes SC isn't relevant to the SC FB board?
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