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Old 07-14-2017, 12:07 PM   #1
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We are going to steamroll Florida this year. I'm sorry but Butterteeth doesn't have a QB and there is no way in hell he has recruited well enough to make up for Muschamp's talent leaving.
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We are going to steamroll Florida this year. I'm sorry but Butterteeth doesn't have a QB and there is no way in hell he has recruited well enough to make up for Muschamp's talent leaving.
Jury is out still for me. To many unknowns for me to make that judgment. My heart wants to agree, but my head ...
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If only the pieces are in place for an improved defense........
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If only the pieces are in place for an improved defense........
How do you know they aren't? This is essentially the same nucleus of players from last year with more experience, another year in the S&C program, and another year being developed by the coaches. PLUS there is talented, albeit young, reinforcements enrolled into the program. Oh and lets not forget that our best player is back.

I don't understand the hand wringing over the defense right now. CWM got rid of the ones that couldn't play, were cancers, or didn't want to be here.

We are going to be one of the top T/O Margin teams in the SEC again, we will be better against the run, and we will piece together a pass rush.

I will be very surprised if this is a defense that finishes in the 60's for Total Defense.
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We are going to steamroll Florida this year. I'm sorry but Butterteeth doesn't have a QB and there is no way in hell he has recruited well enough to make up for Muschamp's talent leaving.
Florida has won the east the past two seasons. You can talk smack about Butterteeth all you want, but the Gators ran us off the field last year... Fourth sounds about right to me. I think Georgia wins it, Florida finishes second, and either us or Tennessee will be third.
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How do you know they aren't? This is essentially the same nucleus of players from last year with more experience, another year in the S&C program, and another year being developed by the coaches. PLUS there is talented, albeit young, reinforcements enrolled into the program. Oh and lets not forget that our best player is back.

I don't understand the hand wringing over the defense right now. CWM got rid of the ones that couldn't play, were cancers, or didn't want to be here.

We are going to be one of the top T/O Margin teams in the SEC again, we will be better against the run, and we will piece together a pass rush.

I will be very surprised if this is a defense that finishes in the 60's for Total Defense.
I think we are going to do a lot of blitzing to overcome a mediocre pass rush. If our DBs can avoid busted coverages and tackle well then our defense should exceed expectations.

The thing I'm most worried about is King's tackling, specifically being able to take on a screen or a run to the outside. There were moments last year where he had no interest in even attempting to tackle.
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Florida has won the east the past two seasons. You can talk smack about Butterteeth all you want, but the Gators ran us off the field last year... Fourth sounds about right to me. I think Georgia wins it, Florida finishes second, and either us or Tennessee will be third.
20-7 is not running off the field. Their defense, chalked full of Will Muschamp recruited NFL players, flexed their muscles but their offense was TERRIBLE against a defense that you all are so worried about right now. Also, I see nothing that they have coming back or incoming from their recruiting classes that scares me. They are the team that you can point to as a team that should regress this year and I think we will win by at least 10 when they come to Williams-Brice.
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I think we are going to do a lot of blitzing to overcome a mediocre pass rush. If our DBs can avoid busted coverages and tackle well then our defense should exceed expectations.

The thing I'm most worried about is King's tackling, specifically being able to take on a screen or a run to the outside. There were moments last year where he had no interest in even attempting to tackle.
It won't be any more than what we did last year. With Skai back, BAW gets to play more freely. DJ Wonnum had a solid freshman season and by all accounts has really improved. Sawyer is in the best shape of his life. Keir Thomas is back at his home at DE after a promising freshman season. If we get ANYTHING from Brad Johnson, Shameik Blackshear, Aaron Sterling, and Javon Kinlaw in the middle then we are going to be fine.
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The biggest thing we have to clean up is stopping the run. If we can do that, or at least slow teams down on the ground, then Muschamp and his staff will find a way to generate a pass rush. He isn't going to sit back in a soft zone this year.

I think its also overlooked just how good we were at takeaways last season.
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The biggest thing we have to clean up is stopping the run. If we can do that, or at least slow teams down on the ground, then Muschamp and his staff will find a way to generate a pass rush. He isn't going to sit back in a soft zone this year.

I think its also overlooked just how good we were at takeaways last season.
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The biggest thing we have to clean up is stopping the run. If we can do that, or at least slow teams down on the ground, then Muschamp and his staff will find a way to generate a pass rush. He isn't going to sit back in a soft zone this year.

I think its also overlooked just how good we were at takeaways last season.
I'm with you, I'm very optimistic for the team this year. I was just outlining what I think has to happen (should have included that I think it will). I'm less concerned about stopping the run between the hashes, I think Stallworth is gonna have a great year as will Sawyer.

I'm a bit of an old school football guy who values time of possession. I am concerned that if our defense is on the field too much then we could have some frustrating fourth quarters. Not sure we have the depth to overcome that.
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The biggest thing we have to clean up is stopping the run. If we can do that, or at least slow teams down on the ground, then Muschamp and his staff will find a way to generate a pass rush. He isn't going to sit back in a soft zone this year.

I think its also overlooked just how good we were at takeaways last season.
Hoping Kinlaw is the answer for that
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I think we can win the East, but I'm picking UGA 1st and USC and FL tied for 2nd.
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I think we can win the East, but I'm picking UGA 1st and USC and FL tied for 2nd.

All I want is to be in the conversation when the Georgia game rolls around.

Many will chalk that up as a guaranteed loss for SC but that is a classic trap game.

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I don't expect us to be world beaters or anything this season but I do expect us to be improved on both sides of the ball. This is year 2, there has to be improvement from year 1. Everyone should be adjusted to the staff and the schemes/system by now. More talent has entered the program. The coaching staff turnover that we typically experience was minimal.

However, the thing with Coach Muschamp is that it appears that he doesn't carry any expectations for freshmen and young players in general. He wants to lean on his upperclassmen which is why he doesn't talk about the new guys very much and made a point to call out Sawyer, Stallworth, and Jones yesterday. He has said that we are 2 recruiting classes away (plus development) from being where we need to be so that is where my expectations are right now. I think he prefers to have a team that has 20+ seniors and that is what he is building up to because that means guys have been in his program for 3-4 seasons and have fully developed. Like he said yesterday, 70% of the team is still freshman and sophomores w/ only 11 Seniors.

IMO, our 2018 and 2019 teams are going to be scary good but this 2017 team has a shot at contending if things fall into place.
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I think its also overlooked just how good we were at takeaways last season.
Good point. You know UGA should have a very good running game; UF should be good RE running too.
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