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Old 08-09-2017, 08:00 PM   #441
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I don't. I actually think clemson has a leg up in the race on us although I think he will ultimately end up at Kentucky. He wants to be able to play 1-4 in college. Most the schools recruiting him have promised him that. In an interview he says coach martin told him he would only play the 1-3 spots here because he likes to have 2 big men and that's what they've recruited for.

Hey, atleast coach Martin is honest and not lying to the kid. Have to respect that, but zion is trying to go somewhere that prepares him for the league and wants to play and get experience at as many positions as possible. It's not a huge leg up but it has sort of shifted his focus to the other schools that can offer him more in terms of learning the game and each position.

If coming down to Kentucky and UNC in my opinion. Outside of maybe Duke, I would be completely shocked if he went anywhere else.
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:23 PM   #442
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Other than being a power with a massive amount of tradition, dominating their conference, and being an NBA factory there's no reason to be attracted to going there for a brief stop before the NBA
What I mean is that there are plenty of great programs that aren't on Lawrence Kansas
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:34 PM   #443
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What I mean is that there are plenty of great programs that aren't on Lawrence Kansas
Just like there plenty of great programs that aren't in Lexington, KY or Durham, NC. If he hits it off with Bill Self then no reason to not want to go there.
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I don't. I actually think clemson has a leg up in the race on us although I think he will ultimately end up at Kentucky. He wants to be able to play 1-4 in college. Most the schools recruiting him have promised him that. In an interview he says coach martin told him he would only play the 1-3 spots here because he likes to have 2 big men and that's what they've recruited for.

Hey, atleast coach Martin is honest and not lying to the kid. Have to respect that, but zion is trying to go somewhere that prepares him for the league and wants to play and get experience at as many positions as possible. It's not a huge leg up but it has sort of shifted his focus to the other schools that can offer him more in terms of learning the game and each position.

If coming down to Kentucky and UNC in my opinion. Outside of maybe Duke, I would be completely shocked if he went anywhere else.

Just looking at highlight reels I figured Zion's initial college position would probably be the four.
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Old 08-10-2017, 05:03 PM   #445
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I think the staff is moving on with the assumption that Williamson is going elsewhere....they are recruiting several Forward/Wing prospect now: Hellem, Nichols, and now Simi Shittu out of Vermont.....
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Old 08-10-2017, 05:13 PM   #446
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this guy is not coming here just hope he doesn't go to kentucky
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Old 08-10-2017, 05:21 PM   #447
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I think the staff is moving on with the assumption that Williamson is going elsewhere....they are recruiting several Forward/Wing prospect now: Hellem, Nichols, and now Simi Shittu out of Vermont.....
Why wouldn't they though? Just because they are means nothing in the case of this kid.
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Old 08-10-2017, 05:31 PM   #448
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Why wouldn't they though? Just because they are means nothing in the case of this kid.
CFM and staff are starting up recruitment on other kids who play Williamson's position very late in the process, and offering in the past 1-2 weeks. In Nichols' case they still have yet to offer, but will soon. CFM is telling them they will play the same 1-3 positions he's told Williamson. CFM had only given out 2 offers for some time for the 2018 class, to Williamson and Aaron Nesmith down in Charleston, and now several offers are all going out for prospects at Williamson's position in quick fashion. It's just reading the writing on the wall, to me.....
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CFM and staff are starting up recruitment on other kids who play Williamson's position very late in the process, and offering in the past 1-2 weeks. In Nichols' case they still have yet to offer, but will soon. CFM is telling them they will play the same 1-3 positions he's told Williamson. CFM had only given out 2 offers for some time for the 2018 class, to Williamson and Aaron Nesmith down in Charleston, and now several offers are all going out for prospects at Williamson's position in quick fashion. It's just reading the writing on the wall, to me.....
I'm not sure how much having him for one year really helps our program long term. Sometimes things like that can ruin team chemistry.
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Old 08-10-2017, 06:22 PM   #450
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I'm not sure how much having him for one year really helps our program long term. Sometimes things like that can ruin team chemistry.
This is also true. CFM relies on strong team defense, something that usually requires some teaching time. It's very rare to find prep talent that are strong defenders and already have that "defense first" mentality, with everything being all AAU/Rec League these days with spreading out on the floor, going ISO and dribble-driving to the basket non-stop, or quickly shooting the 3s with 20 seconds left on the shot clock.

Martin is the Anti-Calipari in this respect - he almost needs to re-wire kids once they get into the program. A One-And-Doner won't want to deal with that, and Coach Martin recognizes it...
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He may not be showcased here as well as he would like to. But he would learn a great deal about the fundamentals of basketball and that will take him far in the long run.
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