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Old 07-12-2018, 05:12 PM   #201
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We already got a commitment from Trae Hannibal, who is an in-state kid for the 2019 class. Is that not something to be happy about? Does Frank have to sign ALL of the local talent in order to prove he is doing a good job? We already have Cuisnard, Bryant, Lawson and Minaya who all can play on the wing, which is where Gary is projected to play. If Gary chooses to go elsewhere, maybe its because he thinks we are already loaded at his position? Could that be a factor?



Loaded??


If you think we're loaded at any position you may be loaded.
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You think Hannibal is "just any local talent"??
Yes.. he's a solid piece, but there are only 3 big time local talents for 2019 that can help take a team to the next level
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Loaded??


If you think we're loaded at any position you may be loaded.
How do you know Gary is better than the guys we already have?
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:51 PM   #204
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Yes.. he's a solid piece, but there are only 3 big time local talents for 2019 that can help take a team to the next level
That might be true. But it might not be true.
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That might be true. But it might not be true.
Watch the tapes and look at the evaluations and offer sheets. That will tell you a lot. Not saying he isn't a good piece to have, but if we want to be a consistently top team we have t land the big fish. Why do you think the Duke's, UK's, Villanova's, UNC's are always on top?
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Committed to Bama


Convinced we will continue to miss out on these big name guys until we can win the players we currently have (consistently... yes one F4 appearance is great but it is not continuity)
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:09 PM   #207
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Committed to Bama


Convinced we will continue to miss out on these big name guys until we can win the players we currently have (consistently... yes one F4 appearance is great but it is not continuity)
Bama has been a Powerhouse over the last decade. 2 tournament appearances in the past 10 years and they got to the second round both times.

We cannot compete with that level of consistency.
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So maybe Frank's method of not contacting recruits isn't the ideal way? (don't get worked up, a little joke). And is there really any draw to Alabama other than Avery Johnson versus Frank Martin? I mean that in all seriousness. Why Bama or Ole Miss over USC?
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:21 PM   #209
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I'm glad we know now so that our coaches don't waste any more time trying to recruit him.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:24 PM   #210
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Keep up the great recruiting Frank you’re killing it
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I'm glad we know now so that our coaches don't waste any more time trying to recruit him.
Sounds like they stopped recruiting him a while ago. Must have known they had no shot I guess?
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:29 PM   #212
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Sounds like they stopped recruiting him a while ago. Must have known they had no shot I guess?
Could be. No point in recruiting someone you aren't going to get.
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How do you know Gary is better than the guys we already have?



Cause he's going elsewhere.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:49 PM   #214
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Disappointing, but par for the course.
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Disappointing, but par for the course.
I'm not disappointed at all. We still have a scholarship open for someone who wants to play for USC.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:57 PM   #216
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Why do you guys want players who don't want to play for USC?
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Why do you guys want players who don't want to play for USC?
They don't. They just want highly regarded local players to want to play for USC.
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Why do you guys want players who don't want to play for USC?


I try to give alternative arguments the benefit of the doubt, but something keeps bugging me about this whole thing.


One is this. It's like you making it sound like it's predestination. Same as the 'we don't get local kids' argument. A kid isn't born and just because he's in SC and a good basketball player, is destined to go out of state. And just because someone grows up a fan of a school doesn't mean he won't attend USC.

What everyone, I think, who is critical of this kind of thing is saying is this:


What's the statistically most likely way to build a competitive program:


1) Recruit local kids with top talent who's parents can drive to see midweek games and supplement with out of state kids that are under the radar.


2) Recruit mid level talent from other states that their programs have passed over and develop it


3) Recruit nationally and focus on players completely overlooked with maybe one other major offer and then develop them




If I'm going to pick what I want to do as a coach, it's the first option. So to shrug off missing great players instate with the Spurrier theory of recruiting is a mistake. It's the same reason we went from a 11 win perennial team in football with the foundation of local talent to a 3 win and it's the same reason, so far, that a Final 4 run with quality local talent was followed up with getting passed over for the NIT.
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