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Old 05-18-2018, 10:18 AM   #1
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As the Baseball season has progressed, the similarities of Kingston's first season and Muschamp's first season are kind of crazy. Before Muschamp's first season, the fan base was basically in agreement that let the chips fall where they may, but a bowl game would be considered a pretty good season given what he walked into. Before Kingston's first season, the fan base was kind of on the line of saying post season play or improving as a ball club and maybe coming up just short would be considered an improvement.

Both came out of the game good showings early on.

Kingston - Takes first 2 series, then drops Furman and series to Clemson, and then picks it back up by sweeping the smart kids at Princeton and Harvard.

Muschamp - Wins debut against Vandy, then drops to Miss St, and then picks it back up against ECU.

Then the SEC schedule really kicks in for both.

Kingston - Drops series to Florida, swept by Georgia, throw in a sweep to Tenn, but then lost series to Kentucky and Arkansas and things are looking very grim for year 1.

Muschamp - Drops to Kentucky, Texas A&M, and Georgia and year 1 isn't looking any better on the grid iron.

The Baseball team is sitting at 20-17 with 3 top 20 teams set up for the next 3 series. Post season is looking extremely doubtful. The Football team is 2-4 with a couple of for-sure losses and not a whole lot of for-sure wins to make a bowl.

At nearly the exact halfway point of both seasons, a little light came on. The teachings that these staffs have been pushing since they made it to Columbia, finally became natural and the players were able to go out and play instead of think too much.

Kingston - Sweeps LSU, takes the series at Vandy, and nearly sweeps #4 Ole Miss.

Muschamp - Beats UMASS, upsets Tenn, and gets above 500 with a victory over Missouri.

Kingston - Ugly midweek losses are really hurting a very very strong finish to the season.

Muschamp - Ugly losses at Florida and Clemson really took some steam out of the otherwise frenzy of a finish to the season.

We still have 2 more games of the regular season, and then the place that all Gamecock Baseball fans hate ... Hoover. I think at this point, we're in, but nothing is guaranteed. A bounce back and series win this weekend would probably almost promise us a spot in the post season. Hoover we NEVER play well in, so we can't expect anything we do there to help us.

Muschamp made drastic improvements in year 1 and made it to a bowl game. Time will still tell how this season ends up for Kingston, but I think he's done a phenomenal job this season. As I thought at his very first conference, I think this is the right man for the job, and look forward to seeing where both of these men take their programs to.
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Nice thoughts and writeup. They are similar.
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I hope we make the Final Four.
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As the Baseball season has progressed, the similarities of Kingston's first season and Muschamp's first season are kind of crazy. Before Muschamp's first season, the fan base was basically in agreement that let the chips fall where they may, but a bowl game would be considered a pretty good season given what he walked into. Before Kingston's first season, the fan base was kind of on the line of saying post season play or improving as a ball club and maybe coming up just short would be considered an improvement.

Both came out of the game good showings early on.

Kingston - Takes first 2 series, then drops Furman and series to Clemson, and then picks it back up by sweeping the smart kids at Princeton and Harvard.

Muschamp - Wins debut against Vandy, then drops to Miss St, and then picks it back up against ECU.

Then the SEC schedule really kicks in for both.

Kingston - Drops series to Florida, swept by Georgia, throw in a sweep to Tenn, but then lost series to Kentucky and Arkansas and things are looking very grim for year 1.

Muschamp - Drops to Kentucky, Texas A&M, and Georgia and year 1 isn't looking any better on the grid iron.

The Baseball team is sitting at 20-17 with 3 top 20 teams set up for the next 3 series. Post season is looking extremely doubtful. The Football team is 2-4 with a couple of for-sure losses and not a whole lot of for-sure wins to make a bowl.

At nearly the exact halfway point of both seasons, a little light came on. The teachings that these staffs have been pushing since they made it to Columbia, finally became natural and the players were able to go out and play instead of think too much.

Kingston - Sweeps LSU, takes the series at Vandy, and nearly sweeps #4 Ole Miss.

Muschamp - Beats UMASS, upsets Tenn, and gets above 500 with a victory over Missouri.

Kingston - Ugly midweek losses are really hurting a very very strong finish to the season.

Muschamp - Ugly losses at Florida and Clemson really took some steam out of the otherwise frenzy of a finish to the season.

We still have 2 more games of the regular season, and then the place that all Gamecock Baseball fans hate ... Hoover. I think at this point, we're in, but nothing is guaranteed. A bounce back and series win this weekend would probably almost promise us a spot in the post season. Hoover we NEVER play well in, so we can't expect anything we do there to help us.

Muschamp made drastic improvements in year 1 and made it to a bowl game. Time will still tell how this season ends up for Kingston, but I think he's done a phenomenal job this season. As I thought at his very first conference, I think this is the right man for the job, and look forward to seeing where both of these men take their programs to.
So who is the baseball teamís Jake Bentley, coming out of nowhere to help lead the turnaround?
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:03 PM   #5
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I wish much success to both coaches and will watch as they progress (hopefully).

The sky's the limit (I never fully understood this saying BTW).


http://cockytalk.com/showthread.php?t=225303

http://cockytalk.com/showthread.php?t=236429
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I wish much success to both coaches and will watch as they progress (hopefully).

The sky's the limit (I never fully understood this saying BTW).


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When are you updating that stuff for Kingston?
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When are you updating that stuff for Kingston?

I have it updated for prosperity but I keep it on my google drive. I have some pdf baseball scorecards I update as well just for fun (I follow braves games with paper scoresheets as well sometimes).

I realized that many posters were unhappy that the thread was created at all.
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No players on all SEC 1st team, 2nd team, defensive team, or all Freshmen team this year. Given that not a bad job of coaching 'em up.

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Scouts have told me we couldn't have made a better hire for USC than Kingston. He should be SEC coach of year with all our injuires!
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Default Re: Kingston vs. Muschamp Year 1

I liked Muschamp from the start and even more now. Same goes with Kingston. I think both will consistently have good programs here.

Mark took over a very weak hitting team and had very little returning pitching experience. He took over a program in a steady decline. Our hitting is much improved under Mark and he managed to win lots of games despite the lack of pitching experience. Then factor in all the injuries we had to key players. He is a "new school" coach and definitely exceeded expectations in his 1st year. Once he has his full cycle of recruits we will once again be one of the nation's best teams.

Tanner made a huge mistake in hiring Holbrook, saw the mistake he had made and then hired one of the best coaches in college baseball.

To make matters even tougher for Mark he had to bring in a new pitching coach in Jan. Meade had very little time to work with all these freshmen pitchers.
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