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Old 06-04-2018, 10:21 AM   #1
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Although they've played three games, one of which was extra innings, it appears that UNC-W's pitching is in decent shape for today's game(s).

We have used a total of six pitchers, with Morris being the only one who has pitched more than 4 innings.

By contrast, UNC-W has used 13 pitchers in its three games, none of which having thrown more than 5.0 innings total. Alex Royalty, who appears to be their Friday starter, has only thrown 2.0 innings (he was chased early in ECU game 1). Of the guys who have been at least part-time weekend starters for them during the regular season, only one (Ryan Morgan) has thrown more than 4 innings in the regional (two appearances); he might be the only UNC-W pitcher unavailable today, as he threw 66 pitches last night.
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Old 06-04-2018, 10:37 AM   #2
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Our starting Ps except for Morris have struggled with the high humidity of these late rain-delay games at Greenville and Hoover.

JMO, but I think not having to deal with that for the afternoon game will give us a clear advantage.
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By the time game1 is over, I hope to have seen EVERY pitcher the Seahawks have on their roster! Lol
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Using more pitchers doesn't exactly mean anything. They could have been playing match ups to get them to this point. Plus, the more pitchers you use, the fewer pitches each throw, so in there theory all of their pitchers should be fairly rested as they haven't thrown much.
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Using more pitchers doesn't exactly mean anything. They could have been playing match ups to get them to this point. Plus, the more pitchers you use, the fewer pitches each throw, so in there theory all of their pitchers should be fairly rested as they haven't thrown much.
Yep, that was what I was getting at. UNC-W's approach all season appears to have been to rely much more on situational match-ups rather than on staff horses who eat innings. Thus, they haven't burned many of their arms over the regional weekend (their starter, at least in ECU game 1, got shelled, which has something to do with it). Interesting contrast in approaches.

Bottom line is that we don't deserve to advance if we can't win one of two, even if we go against their weekend starters.

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See the ball, hit the ball...dont care who releases the ball. We got this.
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Are they lefties or righties?
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We should (based on recruiting alone) have a significant advantage over UNCW when it comes to pitching.

They have played one more game than us.....

We should definitely have an advantage in game 1 and an even bigger advantage if it comes to a game 2 today.
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Yep, that was what I was getting at. UNC-W's approach all season appears to have been to rely much more on situational match-ups rather than on staff horses who eat innings. Thus, they haven't burned many of their arms over the regional weekend (their starter, at least in ECU game 1, got shelled, which has something to do with it). Interesting contrast in approaches.

Bottom line is that we don't deserve to advance if we can win one of two, even if we go against their weekend starters.
I don't care if they use every pitcher they have every game and keep all of their pitchcounts relatively low.

The most games a team generally plays is 3 straight in weekend series. This is game 4 for them. We should be able to hit these guys.
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I don't care if they use every pitcher they have every game and keep all of their pitchcounts relatively low.

The most games a team generally plays is 3 straight in weekend series. This is game 4 for them. We should be able to hit these guys.
Also, even if the in-game pitch count is low the pitchers still have to warm up before they go in the game and they also warm up before each inning. Those throws may not be as strenuous as actually pitching to a batter, but they still wear on an arm more than resting and not pitching at all.
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OP has good points.

UNCW's season Pitching stats were better than our's. Our hitting was better, and our fielding was considerably better though.

Here's a breakdown of their Pitching so far this weekend.

Game 1 vs ecu
- ecu destroyed them.
- they started Royalty, he got worked, he lasted 2 innings.
- Then they put in Easter, Deatherage, and Gessel and Walke. Easter and Deatherage are 2 of their middle of the pack-to-better Relievers. The game was 'over' by the 5th inning, so they put in Gessell, Walke and Tilgheman (who are below avg for their staff.) each of them pitched about 1-2 innings.

vs Ohio State (Elimination Game)
- They opened with Herring, but he started walking everybody, so they pulled him during the 2nd Inning. Herring was one of their better Pitchers this season.
- Then they put it Warren, arguably their best reliever, and he goes almost 5 innings, he does well.
- Then they bring in Ryan, who you could argue is on the same level as Warren, and he goes 2 good innings. Definitely one of their better relievers.
- Then they bring in Cota (who is typically their Closer) and he does well for almost 3 innings. Cota is their best Closer.
- The game is tied, their going to Extra Innings, so Beehler and Morgan each take an Inning (they are trying to save Cota's arm in case they win.) Beehler and Morgan are near the bottom for their Pitching staff (statistically.)
- They all worked together, did enough to win in 13 Innings.

vs ECU (2nd elmination game played last night.)
- They opened with Roupe (who has been not that good this season.) He gets worked, allows 6 hits and 3 runs in the 1st Inning, so they gotta pull him. He was shook.
- They bring Walke back, (he's not one of their better relievers, he pitched 2 innings in the 1st game,) but he goes 3 Innings and they are playing good defense.
- They have that long rain delay.
- Ryan comes back in for 1 Inning, he pitched 2 innings the last game, he opens up the Rain delay and does OK.
- Back comes Morgan, who pitched an Inning the previous day, and he goes 4 Innings, probably pitching about as well as he had all year.
- They won.

What it means for us:
- uncw has options left.
- Sure, they could bring back Royalty,
- You can pretty much bank on that we'll see Cota (the closer.)
- I would think we'll see Ryan again, and maybe even Warren too.
- I don't think well see Herring or Roupe this game. Probably not Morgan either.
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