CockyTalk

Welcome to Cockytalk!

Thank you for visiting our forum. As a guest, you have limited access to view some discussion and articles. By joining our free community, you will be able to view all discussions and articles, post your own topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, participate in Pick'Em contests and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so please join our community today!!

If you have any problems registering or logging in, please contact our Admins. Thanks!

Go Back   CockyTalk > Gamecocks Sports > The Sarge

Today's Top 10
Posters (by posts)Threads (by views)Newest Posts Gamecock Headlines 
Blitzkrieg
kick_ball
rt3891
carolina_corpsman
GregoryHouse
Three and Out
Captain9Dragons
TastyLicks
SanAntonioCock
Order 66
Great Article on Coa (1026)
College football pod (336)
The Open (297)
For the Drag Racing (169)
Great College Footba (139)
Homemade Hot Sauce
2019 - Jammie Robinson
TD to Shi
2019 Commitment - Jahkeem
2019 Warm / Warmer / Favo
Jovaughn Gwyn is strong
why no mention of Garcia
We Can Beat Them
Selling 4 Tickets for Eve
Great Article on Coach Mu


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-05-2018, 03:52 PM   #1
MWard
1st Team All-SEC
 
MWard's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 4,956
CockyCash: 94820
MWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot materialMWard is USC mascot material
Default SC Baseball Team Accomplishments and Your Level of Approval

Everybody has different views and expectations on the level of success for the baseball team. One fan might say a successful season happens only when we at least win the SEC East, others might say that we aren't successful unless we Win a Regional. There are of course different levels of expectations and success as well, such as saying that getting to the NCAAt/Regionals is the bare minimum, and winning a Super Regional is a lot more significant.

How do you rank the teams accomplishments and what are you expectations? (using the following accomplishments)
- CWS Championship
- CWS Runner Up
- CWS Appearance
- Super Regional Appearance/Win Regional
- Regional Appearance
- National Seed for NCAAt (1-8)
- Regional Host for NCAAt (9-16)
- Win the SEC Conf Championship (Reg Season)
- Win the SEC East Conf Championship
- Win the SEC Tournament
- Play in the SEC Tournament

IMO and my expectations for the team:
(also, they are in in a building order in that for a 'Decent Year' to occur, the 'Bare Minimum' conditions need to be met as well, but not all of the conditions need to be met either for the higher levels... i.e. we may not win the SEC Conf one year, but if we win the CWS who cares!)

Bare Minimum Year - the bottom line (I think these are things we should do 90%+ of years, anything less is not acceptable for our level of program)
Play in the SEC Tournament
Regional Appearance

A Decent Year - Level 1 (This would be an ok year, probably with some up's & down's, hopefully we have a good recruiting class.)
Win the SEC Tournament

A Good Year - Level 2
Win the SEC East Conf Championship
Regional Host for NCAAt (9-16)

A Great Year - Level 3
National Seed for NCAAt (1-8)
Super Regional Appearance/Win Regional

A Fantastic Year - Level 4
Win the SEC Conf Championship (Reg Season)
CWS Appearance
CWS Runner Up

The Best Year(s) - Level 5
CWS Championship

Last edited by MWard; 06-05-2018 at 04:32 PM..
MWard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2018, 04:25 PM   #2
ConwayGamecock
The Classic Double-Take
 
ConwayGamecock's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Conway, SC
Posts: 16,276
CockyCash: 119335183
ConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot materialConwayGamecock is USC mascot material
Default Re: SC Baseball Team Accomplishments and Your Level of Approval

USC should IMO be a program that pretty much plays in the NCAA Tournament every seasons, hosts the Regional every year, makes the Super Regional at least every other year, and makes the CWS often.

Being in the SEC, typically 2/3s of the teams make the post season every year, and USC is one of the elite programs in the league, so that qualifies that. Founder's Park is one of the preeminent baseball venues in the nation, so if USC makes the postseason every year, then hosting it in Founders should be a no-brainer. And if we're hosting Regionals at home in front of our home base, I really struggle to see how others participating in our Regionals will beat us more than rarely. Although it can happen.

Having stated the above, its still hard to expect all this in Coach Kingston's - or any new HC's - initial season heading the program. Especially with the struggles the program had leading up to him coming in. So on that basis, I was hoping to make the tournament, and going to another team's Regional wasn't that bad. We had to start somewhere. I wasn't very confident we'd have gotten past the Regional this season however.

Now that we won that Regional, and fairly easy too, and have made the Supers, I feel this season was a successful one, and a strong start to the Kingston Era. He needs to keep working hard though - the expectations will only rise as his program settles in....
ConwayGamecock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2018, 06:01 PM   #3
TaySC
1st Team All-SEC
 
TaySC's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Aiken
Posts: 4,081
CockyCash: 0
TaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot materialTaySC is USC mascot material
Default Re: SC Baseball Team Accomplishments and Your Level of Approval

Make the postseason = 9 out of 10 years (at least and the 10th year better be close and due to injuries)

Host a Regional = 3 out of 4 years

Host a Super Regional = 1 out of 4 years

Make the CWS = 1 out of 6 years

Win the CWS Title = 1 out of 20 years

Those numbers may not be exact, but something like that is reasonable IMO. Hosting a regional, which means you are among the top 16 teams in the Nation, should be extremely common........ as common as Bama playing in the Playoffs in football and KY making a Final Four in basketball.
TaySC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2018, 06:10 PM   #4
sc455
Heisman Candidate
 
sc455's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: south carolina
Posts: 15,898
CockyCash: 63940
sc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot material
Default Re: SC Baseball Team Accomplishments and Your Level of Approval

Supers is minimum. .if u always get to supers you will get your share of cws berths.

That is where we should be..i could not care less if we ever won an sec as long as we make the tourney..
sc455 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2018, 07:07 PM   #5
GamecockInHell
Household Name
 
GamecockInHell's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Hephzibah, Ga
Posts: 5,062
CockyCash: 1808785
GamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot materialGamecockInHell is USC mascot material
Default Re: SC Baseball Team Accomplishments and Your Level of Approval

To be honest, my unrealistic goal is to get to Omaha every year. Realistically we should get a regional every year and a home regional most years. And we should make a Super with regularity. That's where we were with Tanner and where we should get back to. Anything less than a regional should have a coach looking for a new house in another town. Having said that next year may be the year that says what kind of recruiter Kingston is. We've seen that he can coach with someone else's players.
GamecockInHell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2018, 08:07 PM   #6
AndersonCock
Blue Chip
 
AndersonCock's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Anderson SC
Posts: 888
CockyCash: 3000
AndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot materialAndersonCock is USC mascot material
Default Re: SC Baseball Team Accomplishments and Your Level of Approval

Quote:
Originally Posted by sc455 View Post
Supers is minimum. .if u always get to supers you will get your share of cws berths.

That is where we should be..i could not care less if we ever won an sec as long as we make the tourney..
I agree with this. This isnít football most northern (Yankee) schools donít give a crap about baseball so we should be a top 16 team every single year because we basically compete with the SEC and the state of California schools for national titles. A good year is a Super regional (Itís a great year this year because of the mentality of the team Kingston inherited.) A great year is a CWS berth and a fantastic year maybe once every 5-15 years is a national title. With our history and passionate fanbase that packs the ballpark we should be title contenders every year.
AndersonCock is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Provided by SLB Development